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Old 06-17-2011, 04:20 PM   #257
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Roy Harvey ??? Dang........Wonder why Josh wasn't made the head. Or Mike Scantlebury. Maybe those 2 like staying behind the scenes I guess.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:26 PM   #258
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Wait, they both had a huge hand in this years game which has added a potentially great franchise mode, why do you think they had nothing to do with it when they were both there for the largest parts of development?
Even though they are responsible for the improvement of M12 over M11, the potentially great franchise mode, if you really look at it, is merely a re-hash of Head Coach 09 with dynamic player performance.

What are we getting in the franchise mode of Madden 12 that we haven't already gotten in HC09 ?

This series is two years behind in my opinion. If Madden 12 was Madden 10, it would been ground breaking. If Madden 11 was Madden 09, but had the tackling of M08, it would have too been golden. If Madden 08 was Madden 06, people would've have been a lot happier.

This dev team was behind the eight ball from the get go, with this generation, and they couldn't get it back on track. Madden 12 is a huge step, but maybe, just maybe, Cam Weber intends to get this franchise caught up to the rest of the sports genre.


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So, if Madden 12 is a great game, you still calling him out?
What would make Madden a great game is subjective. Some people just want the other game, or it's comparisons, to disappear. Some people want Madden to catch up with The Show and NBA 2k. People want different things. I'm actually part of the former and the latter. I ultimately want Madden to be on the same level as NBA 2k and The Show, but realistically, I just hope that, for me, comparisons to the other game(s) are no longer possible.

For Cam Weber, I'm sure that his goal is to match, if not exceed, the efforts of the other sports titles on the market. With this group that was never going to happen.


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Old 06-17-2011, 04:40 PM   #259
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:59 PM   #260
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I just want to say thanks to Phil for all his hard work on Madden. And go luck in your new direction. I am loving what I am seeing in this year's game! Also to attack someone and say good riddance. I am shocked, especially at OS. We are usually better than that.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:01 PM   #261
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Roy Harvey ??? Dang........Wonder why Josh wasn't made the head. Or Mike Scantlebury. Maybe those 2 like staying behind the scenes I guess.
Production and Design are different roles... Josh and Mike are both designers. I am also a designer, and I'll say it straight out; I would not want Phil's job. It's a whole lot of schedules and meetings and spreadsheets and way too much business for me. I want to get my hands dirty... I want to watch my designs become reality in game.

To address how this affects Madden; Cam Weber has really set us on a course that I believe is going to result in great things from Madden in the future. I think he's a fine leader and has a great sim oriented vision for Madden.

If you'd told me six months ago that Ian and Phil (the two people most instramental in bringing me here) would be gone by the time I finished my first contract, I don't think I'd have come... but I just signed my extention, and I'm going to stay, because I believe in where Cam is taking us. I'm nervous, because now I'm here without any of the people who brought me here, but I'm going to be working my *** off to prove myself.
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Production and Design are different roles... Josh and Mike are both designers. I am also a designer, and I'll say it straight out; I would not want Phil's job. It's a whole lot of schedules and meetings and spreadsheets and way too much business for me. I want to get my hands dirty... I want to watch my designs become reality in game.

To address how this affects Madden; Cam Weber has really set us on a course that I believe is going to result in great things from Madden in the future. I think he's a fine leader and has a great sim oriented vision for Madden.

If you'd told me six months ago that Ian and Phil (the two people most instramental in bringing me here) would be gone by the time I finished my first contract, I don't think I'd have come... but I just signed my extention, and I'm going to stay, because I believe in where Cam is taking us. I'm nervous, because now I'm here without any of the people who brought me here, but I'm going to be working my *** off to prove myself.

They thought enough of you to offer an extension. You're doing something right. Although spelling extension properly isn't one of them.

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Production and Design are different roles... Josh and Mike are both designers. I am also a designer, and I'll say it straight out; I would not want Phil's job. It's a whole lot of schedules and meetings and spreadsheets and way too much business for me. I want to get my hands dirty... I want to watch my designs become reality in game.

To address how this affects Madden; Cam Weber has really set us on a course that I believe is going to result in great things from Madden in the future. I think he's a fine leader and has a great sim oriented vision for Madden.

If you'd told me six months ago that Ian and Phil (the two people most instramental in bringing me here) would be gone by the time I finished my first contract, I don't think I'd have come... but I just signed my extention, and I'm going to stay, because I believe in where Cam is taking us. I'm nervous, because now I'm here without any of the people who brought me here, but I'm going to be working my *** off to prove myself.
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To address how this affects Madden; Cam Weber has really set us on a course that I believe is going to result in great things from Madden in the future. I think he's a fine leader and has a great sim oriented vision for Madden.
This, coming from Adembroski, is good to hear and should be enough for this community to chill out.
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