Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

[RayAllen20]

I am really hoping that bowl affiliations are changable in the middle of the year....If so I could find a way to actually play a playoff games by saving my franchise right before bowl season and then changing around conference affiliations so it will have all my first round playoff matchups at the bowl sites, and then re-load my dynasty from before the bowl season started and set my bowl affiliations so it will have all my second round playoff matchups.

I really hope this, or export a team are in, because I would absolutely love this game if I could create my own playoffs.

[sparkdawg777]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

I will admit that I still am happy we are getting Coach Carousel and from a few things I have learned about it in this thread I am excited a little bit again, but I still think the first thing EA should have worked on was coach's ratings. That is the most important aspect to the whole CC. It will be nice to see coaches moving around, school changing schemes, etc. but a school like Bama will stay on top if the coaches they hire are all an A- or higher. I can see the possibility of Bama hiring an option coach, but the coach before was a pro-style, so they will struggle the first few years, but that would be a bit drastic for Bama to even hire a coach with that different of a scheme, wouldn't it? Also, I did not know it took 2k around 4 years to get their CC the way it was in 2k8. I don't expect EA to reach that level in one year, but technology has improved and I personally don't think it should take EA 4 years. And for the people who don't know how important ratings matter to a CC, then I can tell you, Roggie can tell you, and anyone else who has played 2k8 can tell you. In my Online Legacy(Dynasty) we are in year 7. I am Chattanooga. In year one I had a season of 15-17, which is pretty decent considering what I came into. After that I went 19-14. Then since then I have won at least 20 games a season. It isn't because I have mastered the game and it is easy to play now, but because my ratings have all increased and I am now recruiting better players that fit my scheme perfectly. Whenever I am able to progress my coach, I always do defense and charisma in order to get better players and to have a strong defense. When hiring my assistants I like them to be offensive minded so that my team balances out. But those are not the only reasons I have improved so much. I am in the Souther conference, a small conference, so I see more coaching changes than a conference like the ACC or Big 10 which will see a coaching change very rarely, once a few years because they are consistently good teams. So I see teams constantly hiring coaches trying to get that one guy that fits perfectly in the conference. No one has really found it in my conference except for the Citadel. They were the worst team in the first few seasons of the legacy. They averaged around 40% attendance every game and were in the bottom 3 of the standings every year. They recently made a hire and it was the perfect move. They have went from the worst team in the conference to now being tied Overall rating wise as the best team with me and are averaging 90% attendance now. The season before they made the hire they had 1 win in the entire season. Something like 1-25. They made that hire and three years later they are sitting at 17-2 because their coach has the best ratings in the conference and he recruits strictly to his scheme. That example there is why ratings are so important. I want to see coaches specialize in certain areas. Rich Rod would have an A offensive rating, but his defensive rating would be terrible. So, if he wanted success, then he would need a Defensive Coordinator with something of at least a B to balance the team out. In 2k8 you can have coaches(assistants and head coaches) who just can recruit like crazy, but nothing else, a coach who has teams score 80+ points a game, but can't play defense at all, you can have a coach who has a high teaching rating, so he can survive on recruiting 3 starts because they will progress so much under him that they end up being as good if not better than the 4 stars other schools in his conference get. Coaches can be average at everything, coaches can be great at scouting, but everything else is terrible for them. NCAA needs that. I want coaches to have personalities like that. We need Lane Kiffin to be represented in the game correctly. He shouldn't be the greatest offensive or defensive coach, but he should have at least a B+ Recruiting rating. Frank Beamer should have at least a B+ Teaching rating. Al Golden should have at least a B Charisma rating. Then the greatest out there, Nick Saban, should be at least a B in every single category and he should be the only coach out there like that. The Saban type coaches should be a rarity in dynasty.

This is exactly what makes CC in CH2k8 so great. Now I am glad that NCAA is taking a step towards this I just hope they really expand on this because like you said ratings are HUGE. That is what seperates the coaches, now this year it seems prestige is what will seperate the coaches but I'm not sure how much of an impact that will make on the field if any.

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by hkwforAUTigers

I am amazed that this is getting any real positive feedback. Why did they basically ignore the off-season (again) to add a mode that is mostly cosmetic? Sure CC is a decent addition, but it wont be really fun until they implement it properly in a few years. I know they had to start somewhere, but they shouldn't make this the premier feature if it is really just a stepping stone to something better a few years down the road. Right now dynasty really doesn't look that great to me.... no medical redshirts? no spring game? no spring training AT ALL? no editing players? not sure about if players progress correctly (size or ratings)? Might be a "no buy" this year. ugh

Quote: Originally Posted by TMJOHNS18

Isn't Dynasty already a coaching mode? Honestly, the whole CC they added this year is more or less just adding the ability to control your look (versus just changing your name) and adding the option to start as a coordinator, though once your HC it seems like it's back to the same Dynasty that it was before. There's more depth to the mode for sure, but it's not like in NCAA 11 you were just controlling a school or acting as an AD. Big difference so far is that you can get fired in this years game lol.

I agree completely. I'm just not impressed with the additions to dynasty mode this year. If you look at it, they essentially added a coaching carousel(sort of) and refined custom conferences. That's it.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

I agree completely. I'm just not impressed with the additions to dynasty mode this year. If you look at it, they essentially added a coaching carousel(sort of) and refined custom conferences. That's it.

And re-tuned simulation stats and made coaches actually recruit to their schemes.

The latter one of those is almost worth the buy alone if that was their biggest addition to dynasty mode along with everything else we have seen graphical and gameplay wise. If it works correctly, then that is huge. I used to super-sim defense against Georgia Tech because it didn't feel fair playing against them when the option was so weak when the CPU ran it and they didn't recruit correct QBs for the system. If GT actually recruits quick QB's in dynasty mode, I may be able to play the complete game with no simulating.

[WildeCane]

Since coaches ratings effect progression will the hc be the only coaches rating that matters or will the entire staff
I ask this bc if u are a hc and cant hire coordintators even tho they effect your teams progression that would kinda stink

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by hkwforAUTigers

Sort of what i was thinking. Since you cant control who your coordinaters are and must recruit for all the coaches on your team, couldnt you do this in 2011 by just simming either offense/defense and accepting jobs as you felt was realistsic?

Yes.

Which is why they need to go further differentiating coaches by making playbooks more unique, making all the styles work (esp the option) and making coaches' philosophy sliders have a greater impact.

[cts]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

...making all the styles work (esp the option) ...

This is what I want to see about. Does the option work for the CPU now? That would be a pretty significant fix.

[sparkdawg777]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

And re-tuned simulation stats and made coaches actually recruit to their schemes. The latter one of those is almost worth the buy alone if that was their biggest addition to dynasty mode along with everything else we have seen graphical and gameplay wise. If it works correctly, then that is huge. I used to super-sim defense against Georgia Tech because it didn't feel fair playing against them when the option was so weak when the CPU ran it and they didn't recruit correct QBs for the system. If GT actually recruits quick QB's in dynasty mode, I may be able to play the complete game with no simulating.

Right, although this dynasty news might not be what we wanted but it is a step foward and we can't let it overshadow everything else. RTG looks very promising and the gameplay will hopefully live up to its hype as well with the improved zone coverage. It will be cool to play as the OC or DC as well. I may play a few dynasties only as an assistant since we can still recruit, will be more challenging.