Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

[djordan]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeremym480

I don't remember all this uproar when VY was on the cover and that guy is the definition of average.

Vince Young was well known to the average person. Peyton Hillis isn't.

[bichettehappens]

Quote: Originally Posted by djordan

Vince Young was well known to the average person. Peyton Hillis isn't.

To the average person? I don't feel like he was... Wasn't he on the cover after half a breakout year? If you asked a random civilian "who is this" I bet they would not have been able to tell you. Average football fan knew VY though, and they should know Hillis.

[bichettehappens]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingkilla56

Where are the, Peyton Hillis is Elite folks with a response to his numbers??? Flawless Victory?

Well to be fair, didn't he start the season splitting carries with Harrison? I believe he had single digit carries at least the first 2 games. Plus as the other guy mentioned teams were able to focus solely on stopping him, as well as Cleveland playing from behind often. I don't feel the guy is elite at this point but those numbers don't tell the whole story

[kingkilla56]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

You disregarded the entire reason why Peyton Hillis is a great player: He played with no passing game. No matter. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who claimed that Hillis was elite, just to offset the misinformed that said he was pedestrian.

I agree with Hillis being exceptional. No way he is pedestrian. And a lack of a significant pass game is a factor that boosts his perception. And I would take him over bum Jacobs every time.

The Browns team passing between Wallace, Delhomme and McCoy yielded:

3142 yards, not too bad. but still at the bottom.
62.2 completion percentage average between them...not bad.
The 12 TD to 18 INT ratio needs work.

2010 Browns were 20th in rushing led by Hillis and 28th in passing
2009 Browns were 8th in rushing led by Harrison and 32nd in passing (2,000 yrds total for the year).

The no passing game may actually not hold up after all.

[Cre8]

I think the Browns 'lack of a passing game' comes from the fact that they rarely go vertical in the passing game. This will be much the same even with AJ Green or Julio Jones (assuming they go that direction) since the rumors have Shurmur being a WCO guy.

Not to mention, Colt McCoy has a slight noodle arm that isn't ideal for a deep-threat passing game. Just one that involves accurate short passes to set up Peyton Hillis and Montario Hardesty.

IMHO, of course.

[kirby314]

Quote: Originally Posted by bichettehappens

Who? Come on man, only person on that list even remotely in the same tier as Hillis would be Ahmad Bradshaw

what? Jamaal charles is a top 5 RB now he is better than peyton hillis 10x. last year JC started week 8 still got a 1000 yards an would've broke AP rushing in a game record against Denver if Todd haley hadn't pulled him out. And this year was second in rushing in the NFL with only 230 attempts he spilts carries with thomas jones. and AVG. 6.4 yds a carry few more inches and he would have broke jim browns record. and he carried the chiefs offense on his back to the playoffs. peyton hillis is better than who?

[Giants4Natic]

Quote: Originally Posted by The GIGGAS

Perennial stars, just like Daunte Culpepper and Vince Young.

Culpepper had a few very good years and in the mix for mvp. Also VY had star appeal coming from college and was a high draft pick who won rookie of the year

Sorry but Hillis had one good year last year on a crap team.

Not saying he can't be a good player for a while but to me Madden usually puts a player of relevance or that his high appeal

Hillis is not known by the casual gamer. And in terms of marketing is a dumb idea but Madden will sell because Madden is a very popular game.

You could put the 12th man flag for the Seahawks and it will sell.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Giants4Natic

Culpepper had a few very good years and in the mix for mvp. Also VY had star appeal coming from college and was a high draft pick who won rookie of the year Sorry but Hillis had one good year last year on a crap team. Not saying he can't be a good player for a while but to me Madden usually puts a player of relevance or that his high appeal Hillis is not known by the casual gamer. And in terms of marketing is a dumb idea but Madden will sell because Madden is a very popular game. You could put the 12th man flag for the Seahawks and it will sell.

So, if the game is still going to sell, why do you say it's a dumb marketing idea. Hillis popularity will soar if he wins.

Still, there is no proof that a cover athlete sells the cover, it's what is inside the cover that sells the game.

Things change and people resist change.