Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by The GIGGAS

I slightly disagree in this case. I see your point, but I think the popularity they gain while playing the games gain them victories. While we do rely on the fickleness of the users to put in forth their victories, the athletes already influenced the "game". I don't necessarily feel he was "given" it. In tournaments, you can only beat who you're placed against. Looking at Hillis' opponent history, he had to face: Ray Rice, a popular running back on a playoff team Matt Ryan, a popular quarterback on a playoff team Jamaal Charles, a running back on a playoff team Aaron Rodgers, the Super Bowl winning QB and now, Michael Vick, a popular quarterback on a playoff team He's not slid through this competition facing guys like the 12th Man and Jordan Gross. Arguably, he's gone against three to four major favorites for the cover (Ryan/Rodgers/Vick, perhaps Rice). He's won each one. I don't have a problem with it. The fans voted for whatever reason, and Hillis is in the championship. As for poll vs tournament, a tournament is far more fun and longer lasting than a poll. Of course, if it was a flat poll, one of the favorites would have won. But what's the fun in that? Also, it would have been a story for a couple of days, and then everyone probably would have forgotten about it. Having a new set of matchups every week helped keep the vote and Madden in consumers' minds. So regardless of the cover athlete, the job was completed successfully. This always was much more than a simple decision on a cover athlete. It was a calculated PR and sales strike, which was a staggering success.

Your last point is correct....it was a more fun way, better PR etc. My statement of more deserving player winning it should have been worded differently. We can debate his worthiness based on his stats, not on the vote. His winning the vote is more about the types of measurements we used to find the winner. I'm pointing out that it's a statistically invalid and unreliable measurement. I understand the confusion because I started out debating his credentials....poorly constructed argument in all, but I feel my points are valid.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by mjhyankees

Your last point is correct....it was a more fun way, better PR etc. My statement of more deserving player winning it should have been worded differently. We can debate his worthiness based on his stats, not on the vote. His winning the vote is more about the types of measurements we used to find the winner. I'm pointing out that it's a statistically invalid and unreliable measurement. I understand the confusion because I started out debating his credentials....poorly constructed argument in all, but I feel my points are valid.

It's simply a popularity contest, there's no 'statistically valid' way to justify 99% of the NFL to be on the cover.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

It's simply a popularity contest, there's no 'statistically valid' way to justify 99% of the NFL to be on the cover.

Agreed.

Just the like the NCAA bracket, anyone can beat anyone at any given moment. That's what the voting was based off, the NCAA bracket.

If you look at it that way, then it was done in a proper fashion.

Is Connecticut the best team in the country or were they the hottest team in the last month or two?

[bigdfan76]

Don't get me wrong, I really like Hillis. He's a versatile, bruising back. But I'm not so much voting for Hillis as I am voting against Vick. I can't believe that dog killer made it this far. Oh and it has NOTHING to do with me being a Cowboys fan. I mean come on! He's an ex-felon. Kids are buying these games. If I had a kid that wanted Madden 12 and Vick was "gracing" the cover. I'd buy it with out my kid there and replace it with a custom cover. Then I'd tell him why Vick is a pile of poo! Go Hillis!

[Noles4ever]

I don't know why people are complaining who is on the cover and who isn't because of star power. No one buys the game because of who is on the cover. They buy the game because it's the only NFL game on the market.

[MrSkagTrendy]

The thing is, the cover will not determine whether people DO buy it. The people that were going to buy it before Vick was put on the cover still will.

BUT

The people that maybe were going to buy it (for themselves or for children) now may not, because of what they think of Vick's image.

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by bichettehappens

To the average person? I don't feel like he was... Wasn't he on the cover after half a breakout year? If you asked a random civilian "who is this" I bet they would not have been able to tell you. Average football fan knew VY though, and they should know Hillis.

VY lead his team to a National Championship, was a top ten pick, and won Rookie of the Year the year before being on the cover. Hillis had one good year.

[OSUFan_88]

My answer to whether Hillis deserves it or not?

Scoreboard.