Madden Creative Director, Ian Cummings is Leaving Tiburon

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Garrett67

I wasn't talking about Ian, I like Ian.

LOL, I know who you were talking about.

[Bgamer90]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

Computer science or software engineering degrees aren't new. Ian started as a game tester, and majored in finance while at college.

So because of that Ian doesn't have experience?

As tazedevil said, there's many capable people without degrees. I've also seen first hand people w/o degrees get jobs over people with them due to the former having more job experience and knowledge.

I mean, there's more ways one can learn something outside of college. Also in many ways college isn't all it's cracked up to be (and I can say this since I'm currently a college student) though lets not go off topic...

[hickhitchell33]

"Eyyeeesss!"

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

I don't know, I don't work in that studio. I only know what the teams members said about their own credentials, and most of them stated that they didn't have a degree in a related field.

I've worked in software develepment since I was in college (Two decades). Previosuly at some very big name houses.

Some of the most brilliant programmers/designer are guys without a degree in a related field or without a degree at all.

Actually the guy who I would say is the be all end all programmer I worked with at Apple, never even graduated High School.

In this field in particular a formal degree does not guarantee great programming nor does not having one preclude you from that. Many great, real high end guys actually had degrees in fine arts, probably because of the creativity..

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

Computer science or software engineering degrees aren't new. Ian started as a game tester, and majored in finance while at college.

You don't need a computer science degree to be a great programmer/designer.

[frankrizzo380]

I think suprise onside kicks did it, it pushed him over the edge. Is it safe to say that madden 12 is completed? Or did he leave them before completion of the game?

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

You are hanging on this degree thing far too much. I'm a software engineer at a large company. There are many folks I work with here who are brilliant programmers and do not have a college degree. I also went to college with some guys who were brilliant and left college because they were recruited by companies to work for them immediately for large amounts of cash. I'm not saying the guy was great at his job or bad at it, but whether or not he had a degree doesn't make him any less capable.

Okay, point taken, but clearly the programmers working at Tiburon don't fit the mold you just described.

[Palo20]

Well this is too bad. I've enjoyed Ian's work and his direction for Madden.