Madden Creative Director, Ian Cummings is Leaving Tiburon

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bgamer90

Also, I don't accurately know how things here on OS were when David Ortiz was the producer of Madden but it seems to me like people criticized Ian more than David (during Madden 06-09). While Ian handled things better than I would have, I'm pretty sure it got to him. Working 80-100 hours weeks just to get called "lazy" can't be fun. It did obviously ruin the amount of communication we use to have with him here on OS. That communication though did make ones use Ian as a scapegoat for certain things.

I can't speak to that as well, as I didn't come here prior to Jan 08 I believe. And while the forums were on fire with justified harsh criticism during that time, I don't think the criticism for Ortiz was ever as personal as it was for Ian. That kind of came with the territory with trying to be buddy-buddy with a disgruntled fanbase I guess.

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTFitsDaveyJ

It's not about popular opinion, in my case. Yes, he made fun NFL games, but fact is the same things missing from when he got the Lead Designer title back in 09 are still missing from the game at the current time. Show me franchise depth and deep Superstar mode...Show me the initiative to do more than Play Now. It's not about him doing a BAD job, it's just that nothing has really changed outside of improved gameplay and new menus/fonts. That said, I'm still interested in Madden 12, just as I'll be interested in 13.

A fair point. I think an argument can be made that the football part of a football game is the most important part of it, thus the focus. That said, I'd be lying if I were to argue that Franchise / Superstar modes do not matter.

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

Agree 100%............except the last sentence...so I guess that makes it like 99 %.....or 90%......

Well, obviously you want to enjoy Madden. You wouldn't be here if you didn't. I mean I'll be interested in following the game, not necessarily buy it.

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

I'm sorry; I don't believe you. To this day, people blame Ortiz when trying to cut Ian some slack.

You must've missed the thread just a couple months ago where videos were made saying how good of a game M08 was.

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

Was Ian the one that worked on HC09?

I think the brains behind the off-field stuff in that game was Josh Looman. Again, feel free to check that.

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by CHooe

I think the brains behind the off-field stuff in that game was Josh Looman. Again, feel free to check that.

No, you're right. Josh Looman and Donny Moore were HC09.

[Garrett67]

Regardless of who is at the helm, the game needs to improve. EA is in business to make money and as long as the same people buy the game every year just because it has a new date added to the title, they won't need to change much.

I know some employees care and want to produce the best product but sadly, they're not the decision makers and not always does their vision shine through to the finished product.

I will say I'm just as guilty as anybody. I have bought EVERY Madden game that has been released since the first one, just because that is what I do when Madden comes out.

Every year, I hope THIS is it! But think about it, it will never be IT... how could it be IT? Then what?

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTFitsDaveyJ

No, you're right. Josh Looman and Donny Moore were HC09.

They should be given free reigns over Madden's franchise mode. HC09 is one of those games I refuse to sell. The off-season mode in that game was like no other for a football game