NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

[sticks323]

Quote: Originally Posted by RocketTMac1

WOW! a bit drunk on hype aren't we. they are skilled but they lack power and they aren't that good on defense. they will probably be monsters on offense

not drunk at all...look at the numbers... Bosh n Gasol is better than Dwight Howard... y is Tim Duncan still a 90?? Bosh averaged 24 n 10 rebs... there were only 3 players that averaged that..... n Gasol was a big reason the lakers won... these overalls r terrible

[sticks323]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL

The Knick ratings are way off. Felton should be a 82, Gallo a 80, Chandler 78, Randolph 78.

Felton an 82??? FOR WHAT??? what has he done???

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by toomerk

That depends on what we're talking about jeebs. Are we talking about production, or talent/skill? Talent/skill wise, you're right. KD is just a notch below Melo. But production wise? They're not even close. KD is just a much more complete player when it comes to being efficient. But I don't think the ratings are trying to reflect efficiency (think Wins Produced (Wp48), not PER or NBA EFF)...I think the ratings are trying to capture a player's skill and talent, and they are accurate in that sense. Think about the ratings. 99 Med shot? What does that mean? To me, it means a guy has the talent to score from midrange. But how does that actually translate to production? Wouldn't a 40 Med shot be more accurate, to reflect the actual shooting percentage that player makes from that range? Then we would know, "OK, so if he's open, he'll hit, say from 38-42% of his shots from this spot, and if guarded, that will go up/down depending on the defensive rating(s) of the player(s) guarding him. This would give us more precise data when using teams. But 99/87 etc. ratings don't tell me accurately enough about how efficiently a player is going to score from a given position on the court. And as a coach, I would know exactly where and how to use Melo to get the most out of him...

I'm talking about the whole picture...lol

But look I'm not going to get into to details. I just know Durant plays just like Durant does in real life. And there is nothing more I can say.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by sticks323

im saying CP3 was injured most of the year...there is no way he should be a 95...while Deron Williams led his team to the playoffs playing at an all-star level... He scores more and he had double digit assist...If they were both 93, that would be cool

It went over your head as well.

CP3 is one of the top in steals. Deron Williams isn't thats the only reason CP3 is 2 points higher than Deron Williams in overall...

And like I keep saying...As long as players play like themselves in real life. Overall ratings shouldn't even be looked at.

Guys open your eyes. There is a bigger picture. The days of "Overall" being the major factor between a good player and bad player is close to over.

[J_Posse]

Quote: Originally Posted by big_larry

How is Tony Parker only a 78, he's top 5 pg's in the league.

Tony had his worse season in years. Unfortunately, that is reflected in his rating.

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Bottom line, they're just ratings in a video game. Enjoy it.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that many ratings (individual and overall) are inconsistent. I'd expect intangible ratings (speed, quickness, strength and offense/defense awareness) to be that way, but not the tangible ratings.

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KD is just a notch below Melo. But production wise? They're not even close. KD is just a much more complete player when it comes to being efficient.

Durant has surpassed Carmelo, IMO. They are both a little too geared toward offense (read: one-dimensional), but Durant is the superior defender and rebounder. Carmelo has the advantages of being more athletic, physically stronger and has a superior post-up game.


They make the mistake of needing to reach a specific overall rating for certain players (stars), while they should just let the individual ratings determine where someone belongs. Also, they allow too much consumer/fan opinion to effect their ratings and decisions (during the season).

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

I've seen that severally times in this thread.

We're trying to get people to understand this, but at this point it just seems like a lost cause.

Plus clearly every team in the game should be rated 99 so everybodys favorite team can be right where they want them right? Am I right?

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pokes404

I'm saying he may not be the greatest defender in the league, but he's pretty solid on that end. Mostly, I'm just trying to end this notion that he's only an offensive player that becomes a liability on the defensive end. The guy rebounds, forces people to alter their shots due to his length, tips passes, and has gotten pretty good at the come-from-behind block (though he's still not at Lebron's level). He struggles with pick-and-roll situations and isn't the strongest on-ball defender, but for a guy with his kind of offensive game, he's a pretty reliable defender. That first post did kind of come off as "He's not a bad defender. He may not be the best, or good, or average, or below average ... but he's not bad." lol

LoL....Man I knew exactly what you were saying in the first post. I was just joking.

But like I said before. I think we can agree that Melo and Durant are pretty much on par in terms of production. But the only reason Melo is rated 2 points higher is because he scores points in the post. He has like a 90 rated offensive post game...and as well as a 84 low post shot rating.

[J_Posse]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

It went over your head as well. CP3 is one of the top in steals. Deron Williams isn't thats the only reason CP3 is 2 points higher than Deron Williams in overall... And like I keep saying...As long as players play like themselves in real life. Overall ratings shouldn't even be looked at. Guys open your eyes. There is a bigger picture. The days of "Overall" being the major factor between a good player and bad player is close to over.

How is that? Isn't it a calculation of the various individual ratings combined to give a overall value of the player (which is weighted for each position)? This is after all a computer program and a bunch coding/numbers, so wouldn't the overall number always matter?