NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

[FearlessKaz]

Quote: Originally Posted by yungflo

Go watch hard8times "THANK YOU EA SPORTS" youtube video. I can't post it here, warning: profantiy but view the cpu vs cpu gameplay on there. It actually isn't so bad. with a few tweaks in a yr or two, its good. they lack alot of stuff, but all that shouts out to me is animation and speed. they are not playing a fast game as a user is. that cpu v cpu vid that he posted gave me hope. yall were making the comparisons to live 07, nope just go watch, its at least playable.

Watching that video only confirmed to me even more that the CPU needs a ton of work.

Most of the Lakers possessions had Bynum taking 15 foot jumpshots. He even did a crossover to spin move at one point.

The one thing I can somewhat appreciate this year about the CPU, is that they at least make an effort to try and hit you with some spin moves and crosses. Even then though, it almost feels programmed in, like the moves are more for show instead of being a viable way to try and break the user down.

Seeing this kind of stuff, It's is a tough sell for people who are strictly offline players.

[gamerkid421]

i actually like it but i keep shooting everytime i try to pass lol

[fatleg3]

Rea after a game i was looking at the stats screen and i seen that it has big baby listed at 6'9. Is there any way this can be fixed?

[ryan36]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

Rea after a game i was looking at the stats screen and i seen that it has big baby listed at 6'9. Is there any way this can be fixed?

Fatleg, I know people have been asking rEAnimator some questions and he's been nice enough to answer, but it's not a q&A thread bud...I don't want it to be the whole "omg he's gone silent 'cause his products sucks" thing for the conspiracy theorists if he doesn't log on for a couple days...so ask the question just generally "out loud" without everyone waiting for a response from a specific dude...even though it's not an "impression" per se.

[zmcman1]

Quote: Originally Posted by poseidon44

BS. Shooting is one of the hardest aspects of the new control system. You are full of it.

If I had the chance to upload a video of the game, I'd do it. But I can't.

I've found shooting extremely easy. Learn the release point and you won't miss. Ever.

[bigeastbumrush]

Wow...been busy with work so I just got around tonight to play the demo.

I see what EA is trying to do here. But it's not working.

I'm sure everything has already been said here.

In my opinion, this is not a next generation videogame, let alone basketball. This seems like a first effort at making a game.

Absolutely no disrespect intended towards the Development team. I know you guys are well equipped, educated, hard working people. And I salute reAnimator for sticking around and addressing everything for so long.

That being said, this was a "team" effort by EA's executives to make this change. And it was a change for the worse.

As soon as I popped it in, it was actually "fun". Fun like when you first started playing videogames. 10-Yard Fight kinda fun where no one had names and you just played the game.

But we're in 2010.

This demo is a piss-poor effort to have been released and simply does not represent a next generation videogame.

For spending the entire Spring talking about Controls, Controls is the main aspect that kills this game.

There is NO control.

I see what you guys are trying to do. But as our oh-so-knowlegeable Czar stated, what works in one genre is not guaranteed to work in the other.

Full analog control is a great idea. But you removed too much contextual animations.

Basketball is free-flowing.

A 3 inch (guessing) analog stick is not going to represent:
-fingers
-wrists
-elbows
-knees

Basically all the things which you are trying it to represent.

Because a hockey stick is, for the most part, a straight, unbending "tool". You pull it back, and swing it forward. You may twist your wrist to put spin on it. Same with soccer. Your leg for the most part is straight. Yes you turn and twist it to pass, shoot, etc.

Basketball involves more than straight fingers, wrists, elbows and knees.

You simply cannot represent ABSOLUTELY EVERY BASKETBALL movement with a shot stick.

By removing contextual animations, this is the 'control' that you get. It's anarchy.

I'm not an engineer, videogame developer or whatever. I don't know if that can be achieved with the technology that is out there. If it can, then there was no way you would get those results within less than a year.

I like the effort.

But there is no way I'm buying NBA Elite. Not even sure if I'll play the demo again.

I'll browse the Elite threads but won't be commenting much.

You guys had released the best NBA videogame I've ever enjoyed- NBA Live 2005. I've been an avid supporter of the NBA Live series. I didn't like Live 10 but I liked the direction it was heading.

I'm going back to the better basketball series now.

FIFA rocks! So I know you guys know how to make, not good, but GREAT videogames.

Call me when you guys have figured out b-ball, if you ever do.

And BTW, I hope they let this development team finish your 3-year cycle.

Cheers

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by ryan36

Fatleg, I know people have been asking rEAnimator some questions and he's been nice enough to answer, but it's not a q&A thread bud...I don't want it to be the whole "omg he's gone silent 'cause his products sucks" thing for the conspiracy theorists if he doesn't log on for a couple days...so ask the question just generally "out loud" without everyone waiting for a response from a specific dude...even though it's not an "impression" per se.

ok no problem. I was going to ask it in the ratings thread but i seen it on the demo so i asked here

[SacKings1999]

I just scored 44 points in 5 minutes as the Celtics.

Pierce was 13/13 from three point range.

I see a lot of promise for this game, but this first year, it just isn't nearly polished enough. The animation players enter when they jump for a rebound.... looks awful. Their entire body lunges upwards and they get 20 feet of air. There's just a a lot of animation issues like that. It's riddled with them.

From a video game standpoint, there are times when the controls feel amazing, I'll give EA that. But from a basketball standpoint... this isn't basketball. You don't need to even work the ball for open shots. Just master your release and you're good to go. That's all the strategy you need. No reason to call plays or look for mismatches or play a cerebral game.

It feels like a basketball themed version of pong. However, I have high hopes for Elite 12. They just need to find a way to make having some bball IQ a necessity, fix the ugly animations, and this could be a great game.