Chris' Blog: Playing the blame game with NBA Elite 11

[da ThRONe]

It feels like EA is charging us 60bucks to be a beta tester for next years game.

[econoodle]

great article as usual Chris.

Sadly, they should have stuck with 10's gameplan. Flaws and all it was at least headed in the right direction.


Elite? no comment.
lol

Can't fault them for wanting to try something new. Thats how breakthoughs are made and new paths are blazed, but something went very very wrong during the devlopment of this title.

No sale from me and the Ea hoops goodwill has just been given the death knell.

Its all memories now.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jasong7777

EA will never catch up to 2K. Not when it comes to basketball. Hell, they still have not caught up in football.

I'm not sure I agree that it's so definitive. Tables seem to turn when we least expect them to. At this point, it's hard to imagine such a circumstance but we never know. EA's MVP Baseball series rose from the ashes of Triple Play Baseball and EA's NHL series put things together while 2K's hockey series slowly became stale. Surely it can be argued the gap in those respective sports was never as large as we see here, but still, I'm hopeful Elite can get it together some time in the future.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

I'm not sure I agree that it's so definitive. Tables seem to turn when we least expect them to. At this point, it's hard to imagine such a circumstance but we never know. EA's MVP Baseball series rose from the ashes of Triple Play Baseball and EA's NHL series put things together while 2K's hockey series slowly became stale. Surely it can be argued the gap in those respective sports was never as large as we see here, but still, I'm hopeful Elite can get it together some time in the future.

I agree. Unlike a lot of OS'ers I think Elite is a great base for something special. If they work hard on filling in the many gaps Elite has right now this series may compete as early as Elite 12. If their serious about the three year plan then by Elite 13 they could take the lead. I hope they can. But this year their done.

We cant get refs that move or injuries. Elite devs. were clearly over their head this cycle.

[JWiLL02]

Quote: Originally Posted by carnalnirvana

i think Ea is right they want to be, many may disagree but i strongly feel they have laid the foundation for their goal domination of the online user vs user basketball market.... this is elite the online basketball simulator

You're kidding right? I'm an online gamer through and through, and I have absolutely no desire to play this game online. It's going to be a mess. I'm surprised more aren't talking about this.

I think this whole "skill based" shot stick is a nightmare for online play. The "best" players will be guys who have absolutely nailed a certain guys release, and run back and forth along the 3pt line until they have a small opening, perhaps constantly calling for screens, then shooting 3s ALL GAME. This is going to be happening all the time. I guarantee it. Ranked games will be a complete joke.

Just look at Live 10: people discovered that guys with high off the dribble %s were immune to defensive pressure, suddenly you had every other online player taking 25 threes a game with Mo Williams and Jameer Nelson. What do you think its going to be like now that you can actually hit 80%+ of your shots if you're good enough on the sticks?

Also, what happens when there's even the slightest bit of delay? Do you now have to time your shot differently to account for it? Is there a workaround built in for this?

The bottom line is, Elite 11 won't be won online by playing good basketball. It won't be necessary at all. For the most part (if you weren't playing a 3pt abuser) Live 10 was won by playing good basketball. 2k11 is looking the same, why wouldn't I play that online instead?

Besides, the only reason 2K isn't dominating the online market is their servers, and them inexplicably stripping away all the online features the last 2 years (which I hear are back this year, and them some). Elite won't be dominating anything, online play included.

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jasong7777

EA will never catch up to 2K. Not when it comes to basketball. Hell, they still have not caught up in football.

I have to disagree on that last part....

I think NCAA 11 is as good as any football game created.

Now Madden is still straggling behind but in terms of gameplay NCAA 11 is kick a$$ on the field this year

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by oOausarOo

The only reason EA never caught up in football is because they ended up not having to try and catch up. If NFL 2k were still around I'd bet anything Madden would be twice as good as it is right now.

why do you think that, we have actually proof what happens when EA has strong competition the game does not get better it get worse.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

I'm not sure I agree that it's so definitive. Tables seem to turn when we least expect them to. At this point, it's hard to imagine such a circumstance but we never know. EA's MVP Baseball series rose from the ashes of Triple Play Baseball and EA's NHL series put things together while 2K's hockey series slowly became stale. Surely it can be argued the gap in those respective sports was never as large as we see here, but still, I'm hopeful Elite can get it together some time in the future.

The fact is EA is not the only one with a multiple year plan, to assume that the competition will sit idle by and allow them to catch up is ridiculous, after the release of this years games what exactly is their plan is it to add more controls graphic upgrade is an obvious, fact is they have to start from scratch with gameplay the game is not a representation of the complexities of NBA basketball.