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jspeed04 · 09-21-2010, 04:09 PM

Okay, so I've been following, and playing, both games since their inception. Heard that EA decided to go an alternate route this season and changed it from NBA Live to NBA Elite. Saw that the game got a lot of backlash and saw some of the vids and I could see why it did get said backlash from bball gamers.

Played the PS3 demo, started off at the tutorial. Thought to myself that it was much better than what I saw in the videos. The controls were pretty good, responsive, the shooting mechanic is strange though because you want to push up on the right stick to do an isolation move, but instead you shoot the ball. I did, however like that when you start a jumper, if you do not release the stick, it will result in a travel. Didn't like the dunking mechanic, my created guy was dunking like LeBron and Dwyane. Thought that the layup mechanic was actually pretty innovative how you move it from right to left, however, I didn't like that I was missing wide open layups. Graphics weren't bad, reflections off the floor were fine, my only gripe was that the floor felt too short length wise, but width wise it was fairly accurate. Then I played the 5 on 5...

My goodness, was it a different game that I was just playing? The graphics took a HUGE hit, the Staples Center felt very small and intimate, the crowd were all doing the same towel animations. I start with the ball, how do you pass? 5 second violation. The right stick? What was wrong with good ol' x? Okay fine. The icon passing felt like it was forced, I would try to bring up the icons, and like many others have said, there was a delay. The player movement in my opinion has take another step back from what it was last year. Players felt stiff and had no weight or momentum. I saw zero occurrences of Real Time Physics. The game is still animated. I was under the impression that with the new RTP tools, the dribbling and movement would look different each and every time, so what was the benefit?

The rim and net are some of my biggest grievances with EA's basketball game. It has literally looked the same since NBA Live 2006. If the ball hits the rim, it isn't going in. If it isn't a swish, it isn't going in. Pain in my butt, seriously.

I didn't mind the controls, but there was very little court spacing, switching players to play defense was unintuitive, as many others have said, hand in face or not, some shots just go in. The freethrows have improved, but that is really the only area that made me say okay cool.

This was not a shot at EA, and especially not a shot at the developers who devote their time to these forums. I'm fairly new here, but still, I've seen guys like rEAanimator and stepsix here conversing with us and answering our questions. And I can appreciate that as they could be spending time with their friends or families.

The saving grace for this game will be Player v Player, because player v CPU just appears to be, well behind the times. I hope that EA sticks with its goal of a 3 year cycle, and really pumps out a quality title in the coming years, because competition is a good thing. It allows for innovation, and it keeps prices down. Thanks to whoever read this.

sportyguyfl31 · 09-21-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RubenDouglas


	What a weird feeling. The game has a bit of a fun factor. but thats only obtained after throwing out any expectations about CPU AI or teammates, and just sitting down and freestyling it up. I could see this as being as fun user vs. user party game.. an NBA "Simulation" it is not. On a nba sim scale, I would give it a 6 of 10. As a basketball game in general, a solid 7

I think that is very fair.

For me, the game has a "Man, I know it isnt polished and the graphics could be sharper, but geez..Im having fun" feel to it.

I LOVE the control I have..absolutely love it.

The gameplay on the surface, reminds me so much of NBA Live 2005 (The best Live of all time IMO)..

Unfortunately, to be fair and objective..as much as I have had love for Live over the years..I dont know how much value for $$ the game is going to give me long term...I dont want to run ranked games all of the time..I want to play in leagues. How is all of this stuff going to mesh together with franchise mode?

I like what goes on, on the court itself: Good collision detection, excellent sound and arena atmosphere, a great playcalling system, good court spacing and half court tempo, good on ball D, good help defense.

What I dont see is a lot of flair, and life.

The players, referees, bench, coaches, cheerleaders are just there to be there.

ITs hard to put into words. It looks like basketball, plays like basketball, but it doesnt have the personality....Does that make any sense to anyone?

rEAnimator · 09-21-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RubenDouglas


	Jumped on the 360 version. -Went straight to the alternate controls. Much better. ReAnimator, Is ICON PASSING (LT+RTplus button) any faster in the retail version. The activation of it and the initial pressing takes too long. its basically useless. -ON ALLSTAR, a hand in the face or not, the CPU scores at will. There is no context to them making or missing. -LOTS of in the paint ball mrphing THROUGH other players. I can't play D like that. It's wrose than LIVE 10 -anyone finding it hard to gain separation with Kobe against Ray Allen -CPU teammates leave their man and arent quick enough to realize that they need to rotate back. I can see the potential on a USER vs. USER front, as there is great control (not enough contact still imo) but a decent amount.. USER vs. CPU players, look away. EDIT:GASOL was being guarded by RAY ALLEN in the post. I know how to activate the backdown mechanic (push in L stick) but how do you actually back down? I cant back down anyone with my body.

To enter backdown mode you press LB, not by pushing in the left stick.

Once you've engaged into backdown with the defender, press the left stick towrds him, then release. The press the stick towards him, and release.

Imagine it as if you were doing it in real life.

Try it in practice.

If you press and hold the defender holds his ground.

If you press/release, press/release you'll start gaining ground.

On defense, you hold your ground the same way.

erickonasis · 09-21-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCharisma


	yu were right it really does look like a ps2 game

what version are you playing and what kind of TV do you have cause i actually think they look better on my 1080 than Live 10 does

pdawg17 · 09-21-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by antnyboy20


	This is......HISTERICALLLLL

This guy doesn't know what the hell he is doing...I'm not saying there aren't issues...but he's obviously pushing up on the shot stick when he shouldn't be...

pdawg17 · 09-21-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rEAnimator


	To enter backdown mode you press LB, not by pushing in the left stick. Once you've engaged into backdown with the defender, press the left stick towrds him, then release. The press the stick towards him, and release. Imagine it as if you were doing it in real life. Try it in practice. If you press and hold the defender holds his ground. If you press/release, press/release you'll start gaining ground. On defense, you hold your ground the same way.

Thanks for the feedback...it makes total sense now...of course I was trying to post up and just keep pushing into the defender...that's why my moves weren't getting me anywhere...now that I am "bumping" him and releasing I am now able to make moves to the basket...THANKS FOR BEING HERE!

fatleg3 · 09-21-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rEAnimator


	Anything is possible, but let's give it more than a day of feedback before we decide on anything

no problem. I wanted just to know if it was a possibility of getting that. thanks for answering

bryanleh · 09-21-2010, 04:22 PM

probably the worst basketball game in history its like when i first popped NBA live 07 in and then punched myself in the face. this was a FAIL. give up ALL YOUR LICENSES EA, and hand them to 2k, because college hoops 2k8 is definitely better than wackass 2k10 and people are STILL playing All Pro football! oh and the 60 bucks i spent to get those 2010 roster updates uhh i mean Madden 11 id like that too.

09-21-2010, 04:09 PM	#585
jspeed04 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Sep 2010	Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360) Okay, so I've been following, and playing, both games since their inception. Heard that EA decided to go an alternate route this season and changed it from NBA Live to NBA Elite. Saw that the game got a lot of backlash and saw some of the vids and I could see why it did get said backlash from bball gamers. Played the PS3 demo, started off at the tutorial. Thought to myself that it was much better than what I saw in the videos. The controls were pretty good, responsive, the shooting mechanic is strange though because you want to push up on the right stick to do an isolation move, but instead you shoot the ball. I did, however like that when you start a jumper, if you do not release the stick, it will result in a travel. Didn't like the dunking mechanic, my created guy was dunking like LeBron and Dwyane. Thought that the layup mechanic was actually pretty innovative how you move it from right to left, however, I didn't like that I was missing wide open layups. Graphics weren't bad, reflections off the floor were fine, my only gripe was that the floor felt too short length wise, but width wise it was fairly accurate. Then I played the 5 on 5... My goodness, was it a different game that I was just playing? The graphics took a HUGE hit, the Staples Center felt very small and intimate, the crowd were all doing the same towel animations. I start with the ball, how do you pass? 5 second violation. The right stick? What was wrong with good ol' x? Okay fine. The icon passing felt like it was forced, I would try to bring up the icons, and like many others have said, there was a delay. The player movement in my opinion has take another step back from what it was last year. Players felt stiff and had no weight or momentum. I saw zero occurrences of Real Time Physics. The game is still animated. I was under the impression that with the new RTP tools, the dribbling and movement would look different each and every time, so what was the benefit? The rim and net are some of my biggest grievances with EA's basketball game. It has literally looked the same since NBA Live 2006. If the ball hits the rim, it isn't going in. If it isn't a swish, it isn't going in. Pain in my butt, seriously. I didn't mind the controls, but there was very little court spacing, switching players to play defense was unintuitive, as many others have said, hand in face or not, some shots just go in. The freethrows have improved, but that is really the only area that made me say okay cool. This was not a shot at EA, and especially not a shot at the developers who devote their time to these forums. I'm fairly new here, but still, I've seen guys like rEAanimator and stepsix here conversing with us and answering our questions. And I can appreciate that as they could be spending time with their friends or families. The saving grace for this game will be Player v Player, because player v CPU just appears to be, well behind the times. I hope that EA sticks with its goal of a 3 year cycle, and really pumps out a quality title in the coming years, because competition is a good thing. It allows for innovation, and it keeps prices down. Thanks to whoever read this.

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09-21-2010, 04:22 PM	#592
bryanleh Banned OVR: 3 Join Date: Nov 2008	probably the worst basketball game in history its like when i first popped NBA live 07 in and then punched myself in the face. this was a FAIL. give up ALL YOUR LICENSES EA, and hand them to 2k, because college hoops 2k8 is definitely better than wackass 2k10 and people are STILL playing All Pro football! oh and the 60 bucks i spent to get those 2010 roster updates uhh i mean Madden 11 id like that too.

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