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Old 09-16-2010, 04:38 PM   #65
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I can't make up my mind just yet. Maybe I just haven't nailed down the intricacies of PES 2011 yet, but the players feel a little too clunky for me right now. I understand not wanting to allow all players the ability to stop and start and turn whenever they choose, but I feel like it's a little too overdone and something as simple as cutting back in another direction seems to be too difficult for even the skilled players.
Ok, after playing another game of PES, I wanted to expand on this a little bit more and with a little more detail so you guys could understand what it is I am trying to say.

I think that it takes way too long for players to establish themselves with the ball. Even a skilled player like Messi takes too long to receive a pass, control it, and then move in a desired direction.

This is especially true when being pressured. With the cpu defenses quickly collapsing on you, it makes this even more of a problem. When I receive the ball and have a cpu defender coming straight at me, my initial reaction is to turn in an opposite direction to shield the ball and then quickly move away from him to buy me some space.

But again, this entire process takes so long that the cpu defender ends up taking the ball away from me in most cases.

It just feels really clunky.

The other thing is passing. I hate how I have to look EXACTLY at a guy to pass it to him most of the time. If I'm on a run and I have two guys in the same general area, it almost never goes to the guy I intend it to go to.

I understand not wanting to allow players to have their back to the desired pass recipient while still being able to make a perfect pass because that isn't realistic. But if I have a man all alone in space and I aim in his general direction the ball shouldn't go wide because I'm not aiming EXACTLY to the spot he is standing in. That's just silly.

Now, before anyone tells me about realism, I want you to know that realism is my #1 detail I look for in football games.

It's the reason why I played PES over FIFA on PS2, and why I've gone back to FIFA the last 2 years.

I don't think it has anything to do with realism, I just think both ideas were great in theory but ending up being poorly implemented into the game.

I really hope I'm wrong and that I simply don't have this game down yet, so if any of you have any suggestions, please feel free to share them.

I had really high hopes for PES this year so it would be extremely disappointing to me if these things don't improve and end up being a game killer for me.
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FIFA for me. PES has no atmosphere & is not as smooth as FIFA.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:29 PM   #67
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I played both demos (PS3) and it's PES for me thus far. FIFA was more physical, it seems in PES it's hard to pressure or slide tackle because the CPU always passes the ball before I get there (even if I'm coming up behind him where he can't see me.) However, I've only played a couple games and still getting used to the sytem. But overall the flow of PES was more realistic and enjoyable, and my defenders weren't stupid.

My first goal was great. I noticed there was some jostling over a deflected pass and saw the ball squirt towards a teammate. So I snuck in between Puyol and Abidal & had a hunch so I rushed toward the goal. I looked back and coming my way was a perfectly timed pass right at my feet in stride, YES! I thought I was offsides but I went through the motions anyway and scored a knarly goal but there was no whistle. Looked at the replay and I was inches from being offsides, a perfectly executed play and the D didn't stand a chance. After that I watched the replay for like 20 minutes from a whole bunch of different angles.

I won 1-0 and there was a good mix of possession and off/def balance. Hopefully that will hold up in the retail version because some of the past interations of PES was all offense. Overall though a great game and not much to complain about.
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Im sorry fellas but I dont feel as though the passing is as good as everyone is making it out to be. Sometimes I will aim a pass at someone right next to me and it will go past him to the person next to him. Like for example say Im on the ball with Dani Alves, I aim a pass to Iniesta in the midfield, and the pass will just go past him to Villa on the wing (this is assuming you havent changed the starting lineups). Now I understand not every pass is going to be accurate and I expect that, but I really cant pass to a guy who is literally right next to me? When this happens, It feels as though the game is choosing who you pass too, instead of you choosing. If this is the case then I dont see the freedom in that. But then again, Im still very new to this game and how it plays, so maybe its more of an error on my part than the game.

Is anyone else here having this problem also? Or if you know what Im doing wrong here can U give me a heads up? Im really looking for an alternative to Fifa so I dont want to give up on this game. Maybe if u guys know some tutorials somewhere u can refer to me thatd be great. Anyways thnx fellas.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:04 PM   #69
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Why am I not seeing the PES 2011 demo on PSN?
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Im sorry fellas but I dont feel as though the passing is as good as everyone is making it out to be. Sometimes I will aim a pass at someone right next to me and it will go past him to the person next to him. Like for example say Im on the ball with Dani Alves, I aim a pass to Iniesta in the midfield, and the pass will just go past him to Villa on the wing (this is assuming you havent changed the starting lineups). Now I understand not every pass is going to be accurate and I expect that, but I really cant pass to a guy who is literally right next to me? When this happens, It feels as though the game is choosing who you pass too, instead of you choosing. If this is the case then I dont see the freedom in that. But then again, Im still very new to this game and how it plays, so maybe its more of an error on my part than the game.

Is anyone else here having this problem also? Or if you know what Im doing wrong here can U give me a heads up? Im really looking for an alternative to Fifa so I dont want to give up on this game. Maybe if u guys know some tutorials somewhere u can refer to me thatd be great. Anyways thnx fellas.
If he is right next to you, then a very slight tap is required. It is really easy to overpower passes, just part of the passing learning curve.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:30 PM   #71
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If he is right next to you, then a very slight tap is required. It is really easy to overpower passes, just part of the passing learning curve.
^^^^ this. Just dont tap it that hard. Give yourself time to get used to the passing. It takes time but once you do it is a thing of beauty IMO.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:55 PM   #72
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for some reason i cant get into pes at all maybe i'm just not use to it ..
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