NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

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Hoosier, the argument will go on forever

I told you its a difference in philosophy and implementation

I for one don't agree with what im reading what EA is doing

It will definitely make both games different for sure

Good or bad, I dont know but we'll find out

[Young Murder]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Smoove

2K has already said the user is in complete control on the court. You can break out of anything, there is no animations taking over the game.

They still exist in 2k11 just not as much as they use to or they are shorter than usual.

[real baller]

YES YES YES EA SPORTS BROUGHT DA DOWN LOW POST GAME BACK !!!!!! YES DA CENTERS ARE GONNA HAVE PURPOSE IN A BASKETBALL GAME AGAIN ...THANKS EA! I DARE ONE OF THOSE ONLINE ARCADE GLITCH BOYS TRY TO PUT IN ALL POINT GUARDS AND SHOOTING GUARDS ON ELITE!...ILL JUST BACK THEM DUMB CLOWNS DOWN

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For the guy calling other posters lames and typing in all caps, enough

[HoosierDaddy]

there's no grey area. Either you represent or imitate what you see in real-life or you don't. I don't see how you can say, we're a sim game but allow players to do moves they don't do in real-life or give users the ability to pull off moves that their real-life counterparts don't attempt. Notice I said don't attempt, 90% of these players CAN probably dunk if they wanted to, but you don't see it. Pick-up games or warmups, FINE, but when the whistle blows you won't see them trying it.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayDog253

I don't understand. So you think in Elite everyones going to be able to dunk from the free throw line? You don't think they have some kind of realistic Ratings and tendencies? They have been saying from day one, you have control of their skills. Not you have the control to do what the hell you want, so go ahead and attempt dunks from the three point line.....

I don't believe I mentioned anyone dunking in my comment, there is a different in simulation a Basketball game and simulation a NBA basketball game and that is because you also have to simulate the specific players themselves, all I am saying if a player depicted in the game is able to do something that the person he was model after can't how is that a simulation.

[real baller]

i didnt even call da posters lame i said the lames online playing live da glitch boys who cheat all day

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy

Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.

You are right, big man rarely dribble between there leg but just because the rarely do in real life dont mean it should rarely happen in the game. In real life if shaq wanted to try and dribble through his legs he can but he knows what most likely will happens if he does. So in the game the user should also be aware of this. You should be able to do it as many time as you like but you should lose the ball just as many times.
While playing the game its like who ever you are controlling then you should have to think like that player. Should i take this shot?, can i pull off this move?, etc.

To me that is sim. Playing like players play in real life. If kobe tries to back down shaq will he be able to no. But at the same time he is more then welcome to if he really wanted to. He does what he knows he can do. So in games it should also replicate that. If you want to win then you have to play like the real players play and do things you know you can do if not then you lose.

Maybe the difficulty should determine things like that. On the lower difficulty you should get away with things like dunking from further away, dribbling with big man, etc. As the difficulty goes higher then you will have to play more truer to how each player plays in real life.