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Old 07-14-2010, 10:56 PM   #105
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Just my 2 cents to this whole topic:

1.) thx for all the dev feedback.
2.) people,please don't forget what this is about. The video was meant to show ONE thing (and ONE thing only): Controls.
The WIP sign isn't shown for pure fun, but to underline that it was a capture with a predetermined purpose.
No offense, but rasing the same comments/questions about bad/unfinished animations aren't really fair to the devs.

On the one hand, everyone here wants to see as much as possible as early as possible.But one we get it, we start to complain about things that may not be in the build shown.

I love the fact that on this part of OS, very much everyone tries to be as constructive as possible and have good intentions by complaining about small details.
But we should have seen in other ends of this forum where things can go with random complaints about stuff not being the current topic.

Furtheremore, if you think about the producers perspective, I would really reconsider showing early videos if my potential customers may be turned down by things that aren't implemented in the video or even not finished at all.

3.) I fully understand the "give and get" situation between total control and fluid animations...and for my part, I couldn't care less about visuals not being THAT perfect when the game is balanced and plays smoothly.
(Not to mention that the looks aren't bad at all)
I not only like this because I prefere this approach of creating a videogame, but I also like the fact that this creates a bigger diversification between the two competitors for basketball games.

Thx for reading and sorry if this may be hard to read, english is just my second language
hey i'm with you. on i would rather have gameplay that Pretty play. this reminds me of an old game who used that same logic as far as using a meter to tell you when to release the shot. it was made by 989 sports. that game me and a friend of mine were live homers back then. we still rented that game. and loved it. most people that came thru hated it beause he looked awful in comparison to the big name games. but we loved the fact that what you tried to do with the controller it responded. vs half the stuff being pre animated events that you cant get out of in nba live(which we loved). so i get it. more people love pretty over actual game play. But if you have EA money. you cant do both. you may need to take another month one year to do right. so be it. i would rather you miss the launch deadline and make the best game ever, that we will be hooked on for the next 10 years. then to rush it as usual make the launch deadline and come in 2nd place to 2k(not in sales, but in QUALITY).

you make these game sim properly and what you will start to see are coaches using it in high school, college, and even the pros(scouts etc). they already do this with college football and madden. i told my friends this 10 years ago. they didn't believe it would ever happen. i said watch, we will one day be the 30+ something year olds coaching these kids, young guys. we grew up on live, madden, (bill walsh football LOL). so thats all we know. we will be the ones implementing this stuff into the locker room some how. they do it with nascar. making this game great will be great for EA all the way around.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:17 AM   #106
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Kevin Durant, Brandon Jennings & Stephen Curry Talk New Contr

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Nba Live 10 was PERFECT... the only i hated was lack to animation and automatic crossovers... now they changed to manual crossovers.

The BEST thing live 10 was interior defence... in nba 2k10 i can dunk whenever i want but in nba live 10 u cant dunk unless u earn it.
It wasn't anywhere close to perfect. EA even knows this.
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i hope theres more than a handful of dunk animations because in live 10 you knew what kind of dunk the guy would do after u cleared your defender in driving to the hoop. There should be a good variety of dunks and how players get dunked on because if the air collision is going to be great then that could change the whole game...imagine driving down the lane and kicking a guy ala paul pierce did to chris bosh in the air while posterizing him haha... i doubt "elite" will pull this off though.
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Calm down. I didn't read that comment as a slight.

He's right. I personally don't want two exact titles on the market. That's the way this genre was going last year.

They both need to offer their own experience while respecting the NBA and the sport of basketball. That's all. Of course the goal is to be successful in the market and that's obviously not what one should be saying.
Important point. It makes it WORTH owning two basketball games. "Hey lets pop in Game "A" for this and then Game "B" for that" I like having two games with strong unique attractions.
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Nba Live 10 was PERFECT... the only i hated was lack to animation and automatic crossovers... now they changed to manual crossovers.

The BEST thing live 10 was interior defence... in nba 2k10 i can dunk whenever i want but in nba live 10 u cant dunk unless u earn it.
Interior defense was terrible, all these canned animations and ridiculous blocks and altered shots. Don't know what game you were playing.
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NOW from waht i have seen so far the graphics are good ,its not too colourfull like previous live games which it makes it look like SEGA ARCADE GAME . THIS NEW ELITE IS GOING TO BE EITHER VERY GOOD OR BAD IF THE REAL PHYSICS WORKS BECAUSE IF TWO PEOPLE PLAYING ARE CRAP AT THE GAME AND THEY PUT IT ON YOU TUBE MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUDGE THE GAME THINKING ITS CRAP so ReAnimator .please let two people that can play the game put it on display first. or else people are just too ignorant to give the game justice . SO FAR GOOD WORK ReAnimator. either way im still buying elite. and for the record GUYS STOP TRYING TO WANT THE GAME BE LIKE NBA 2K.
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Nba Live 10 was PERFECT... the only i hated was lack to animation and automatic crossovers... now they changed to manual crossovers.

The BEST thing live 10 was interior defence... in nba 2k10 i can dunk whenever i want but in nba live 10 u cant dunk unless u earn it.
Perfect? No... good, for sure. You can still BS a lot in Live, all you have to do is get by someone and do one of those step through moves, a spin move, or cross over a couple times then dunk it.

There were other problems with Live, too, like the shooting and missed lay ups. The lay up thing has bothered me a lot lately because it seems to have no rhyme or reason. Someone will go up and make some trash but then they will airball a layup from 2 feet away straight on.

But that's beside the point, when I watched that video, I thought it was trash. I'm not gonna mince words. What happened? It doesn't even look the same. The shots look fake especially going through the rim and the ball doesn't even sit in player's hands right. Does it look just like live 10? Because I've played A LOT of Live 10 and that look different... and worse. I hope that's not what they're gonna come out with next year, that'll be a huge disappointment.

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Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Kevin Durant, Brandon Jennings & Stephen Curry Talk New Contr

I wonder how live gets criticize every year on videos made to show specific features of the game and everybody ignores the fact that the game isn't even finished. Lets face that no game is perfect and no game, especially sports games will ever be perfect. Not only do i see some positive in elite 11 but i also know that it will come with flaws my biggest gripe about the game will be if its too repetitive like live 10 is. But 2k10 and live 10 were two totally different games 2k gave you those amazing moments like the commercial and live 10 made you actually play ball and pass and run plays now it seems that both games are trying to let the users create their own wow moments and i am curious and will buy both games as always.
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