NBA Elite 11 Video: Exclusive Shooting Fundamentals Developer Diary

[PH1LLYSFINEST13]

Quote: Originally Posted by Live Boii

yes roll up left or right for left handed or right handed layups. and lastly up to dunk.

Thanks man , appreciate it. Makes me feel better so i dont gotta worry bout some of the smaller players dunking EVERY time like Jennings. I know he can dunk , but he rarely does.

[dirtypuppet]

I completely understand this years mantra for 'total control' and I really do like it, but in regards to Jennings dunking every time:

It would feel much more natural to pull up on the stick for a layup, so how about for players such as Jennings who have the ability to dunk, but rarely do that pulling up is not always a dunk attempt. I think it should be more like if the situation is right, or based on his tendencies he'll do a dunk attempt. I think that that's more realistic.

Then it's more like

roll left - left handed layup
roll right - right handed layup
straight up - attack the rim (with the possibility of a dunk attempt, based on ratings)

I might pass this onto the game play thread also.

[thomonkey]

Quote: Originally Posted by dirtypuppet

I completely understand this years mantra for 'total control' and I really do like it, but in regards to Jennings dunking every time: It would feel much more natural to pull up on the stick for a layup, so how about for players such as Jennings who have the ability to dunk, but rarely do that pulling up is not always a dunk attempt. I think it should be more like if the situation is right, or based on his tendencies he'll do a dunk attempt. I think that that's more realistic. Then it's more like roll left - left handed layup roll right - right handed layup straight up - attack the rim (with the possibility of a dunk attempt, based on ratings) I might pass this onto the game play thread also.

i think this is already how the system works, they just didnt have player ratings in for the video.

[dirtypuppet]

Quote: Originally Posted by thomonkey

i think this is already how the system works, they just didnt have player ratings in for the video.

The problem I see is. If you control it, it's up to you to decide to dunk. But there are lots of players in the NBA that can only just dunk, or rarely do in games, yet alone in traffic, so I feel that when you push up on the stick and are going towards the rim, the decision to dunk shouldn't be so 'finite' but more of a tendency driven result.

Just my 2 cents, but if I was making the game, this is how I would do it.

[Jano]

Quote: Originally Posted by dirtypuppet

I completely understand this years mantra for 'total control' and I really do like it, but in regards to Jennings dunking every time: It would feel much more natural to pull up on the stick for a layup, so how about for players such as Jennings who have the ability to dunk, but rarely do that pulling up is not always a dunk attempt. I think it should be more like if the situation is right, or based on his tendencies he'll do a dunk attempt. I think that that's more realistic. Then it's more like roll left - left handed layup roll right - right handed layup straight up - attack the rim (with the possibility of a dunk attempt, based on ratings) I might pass this onto the game play thread also.

That is how the system works..

If the guy has a low dunk rating then he'll throw up a floater or teardrop instead of a dunk.

[P-Dub]

I like the idea of attacking the rim. Could be an attempt to draw a foul if there is a defender. Floaters can already be attempted manually.

[dirtypuppet]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jano

That is how the system works.. If the guy has a low dunk rating then he'll throw up a floater or teardrop instead of a dunk.

I get it, but what about players with marginal dunk ratings? My suggestion for them to attack the rim, resulting in either a strong layup, or possibly a dunk attempt. Just not always a dunk attempt as I don't feel this is realistic.

Even possibly for Lebron. If Lebron 'attacks the rim', more than likely he'll attempt a dunk, but sometimes, a strong straight up lay in is what he'll do. So for example, push up on the stick driving to the hole and the chances are:

Lebron James; 95% dunk / 5% strong layup
Marvin Williams; 50% dunk / 50% strong layup
Dwight Howard; 98% dunk / 2% strong layup
Mehmet Okur; 10% dunk / 90% layup (just a guess, i rarely see the big guy dunk)
Brandon Jennings; 15% dunk / 85% strong layup
Ty Lawson; 5% dunk / 95% strong layup

Just me guessing at %'s here, but you get my point. So you can see with Ty Lawson, if you drive the lane, the chances of you dunking are quite low, but that one special time, you may surprise the defense (as he did last season) but it's not something that he would attempt often at all.

And these %'s should be based on tendencies.

[ParisB]

For bank shots, can't we use a modifier button, like one of the shoulder buttons? That way we don't have the "shoot on the way down" problem.