MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

[abcabc]

Quote: Originally Posted by ferriscj24

I've been saying the same thing since V.3, but everyone seems to think I'm dreaming or something. Porcello pitched a dominant marathon last night for me, 5 innings of shutout ball for 72 pitches, and I had to take him out before his arm fell off. He was gassed. At 72. I took a screen shot of Scott Kazmir a few days ago in the V.3 thread, page 51 I believe, he had about 50-60% energy left after 1 inning of 24 pitches. Yet, nobody seems to think the stamina edits are a problem.

lol, well i feel for you... but you can't say no body... i'm with you, and if you've read Dean's posts the past few days, even on another thread in the sliders forum as well, you're not alone. i guess you mean 'nobody' as in anyone involved in making the rosters up to this point?

[ferriscj24]

Quote: Originally Posted by abcabc

lol, well i feel for you... but you can't say no body... i'm with you, and if you've read Dean's posts the past few days, even on another thread in the sliders forum as well, you're not alone. i guess you mean 'nobody' as in anyone involved in making the rosters up to this point?

Well...in a sense, but I don't want to say that. I have been using OS Rosters for a number of years now, and the work these guys put into them, for free at that, is nothing short of amazing. I have read Dean's posts, and while he is essentially saying the same thing I am, he is delivering it a bit differently, and I don't necessarily want to be lumped into that.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Knight, HustlinOwl, Ridin, Razr, Strut, and everyone else involved on these rosters. Further, it is not my intention to take something that they have worked so hard on and gripe about it. However, I think that as a forum and as OS members, we can communicate openly about any issues that arise. I just find it kind of odd that (I use this loosely), "most" people are saying they see nothing wrong with the stamina edits in this years version of The Show.

I play as the Tigers, and Justin Verlander can go 100+ pitches no problem, even WITH these edits (His stamina is still in the 90's after the edits). But when you get into the middle and back end of your rotation, these guys are completely drained after 4 or 5 innings and anywhere from 40-60 pitches. Sometimes I get REALLY lucky and can throw 70 or so. But I just don't see how this is accurate/realistic. Not to mention, if I gas a pitcher by allowing him to throw an incredible 80 pitches in a game, when his turn comes back int he rotation 5 days later, he is only at 80% or so, which in turn means I can only get 3 or 4 innings out of him and maybe 40 pitches. Then the vicious cycle continues into the next week, and the next, and so on...

All in all, I am NOT bashing these rosters by any means whatsoever. I admire what these guys do and how they supply them to us out of their own good will. But these stamina edits/issues are, in fact, a problem. I guess I just scratch my head when I read how nobody else seems to think they are. Like I said, I even posted a screen shot of Kazmir with half energy in the tank after 24 pitches in the first. And the response to that was...It has nothing to do with the edits, he has a history of injuries, problem solved. I mean...really!? A starting pitcher can throw 24 pitches and be halfway through the tank? Come on...

[Dean3790]

I am literally adjusting stamina for v4.1 as I type this. We know it's an issue and it's getting adjusted.

[nca34]

Dean are you adjusting the starter stamina only from Bahnzo's tool or stamina for both starters and relievers? Thanks to all involved for making these, it sure adds a lot to an already great game.

[boweezy21]

Can anyone tell me what settings or sliders are best used for this set? I normally use All-Star Batting and HOF Pitching.

[JaSnake16]

To answer tge question posted earlier, dean is doing me a solid and applying bahnzos number to the set. When he's finished it will come back to me and TD to apply the 4.1 changes and other small stuff (strut had some stuff i wanted to get in for 4 but got pinched for time and demand amongst other small changed) any change from 4 to 4.1 I will list so people can make their own changes to V4 so as to update their roster w/o having to change stamina or interupt their seasons too much.

[toolapc1978]

Do we have a time frame on these?

[strut24]

Quote: Originally Posted by JaSnake16

To answer tge question posted earlier, dean is doing me a solid and applying bahnzos number to the set. When he's finished it will come back to me and TD to apply the 4.1 changes and other small stuff (strut had some stuff i wanted to get in for 4 but got pinched for time and demand amongst other small changed) any change from 4 to 4.1 I will list so people can make their own changes to V4 so as to update their roster w/o having to change stamina or interupt their seasons too much.

Ja- I didnt DL V4 yet so I didnt get a chance to look but were those 4 or 5 players added yet? Lamb and those guys? Ill keep getting stances/motions and send them to you and Dean(i assume?) for v4.1. Hustlin I think is gonna do us all a solid and do the FRANCHISE file for V4.1 as well.