7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

[joel0078]

Quote: Originally Posted by rEAnimator

Yeah, we all think the game is too fast as well. Not sure about the game speed option, was it there last year? Anyway, things will change as we introduce player ratings and start tuning locomotion speeds. Everything is tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now. So keep that in mind when you watch the videos. I'm not going to promise that everyone who's complained so far will like the game speed we settle on because it may very well be faster than real life to make it feel more responsive, but everyone here on the dev team thinks it's too fast right now so it won't stay as is.

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos.....

Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

[mharlem]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos..... Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not accurate and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

The game is still being developed, so how can they show us the final product? Appreciate what they're showing us and let them continue to work on the game.

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by rEAnimator

Anyway, things will change as we introduce player ratings and start tuning locomotion speeds. Everything is tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now. So keep that in mind when you watch the videos. .

Anyway to make sure right now that some PG's like Kidd and Fisher are under control with their shot selection/shooting tendencies?

I would love to see J.Kidd be more of a distributor....yes he does look for the open 3 more and i think that should play out in NBA Elite if he's wide open he'll take the shot but if someone is defending him Kidd's not going to shoot

He absolutely must have his feet set in order to be a threat.....I wish you guys could actually label some players SPOT UP SHOOTERS because that's exactly what he is now days.

I'm looking forward to seeing how all this turns out.....i would like to see this series return to the greatnest of years past.

[SacKings1999]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos..... Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast. edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

Whoooooaaa, calm down. I don't know very much about developing video games, but I imagine the reason everyone is tuned to the most explosive, agile player is simply because they don't have all of the player ratings input yet. So all players in these early videos are the same ratings-template-generic player.

The game is still an early build, they don't have sig jump shots, ratings, etc... so if ratings aren't in yet, would you rather see videos where everyone moves like Chris Paul after a few red bulls, or a modern day Patrick Ewing (not to be confused with Patrick Chewing).

Just relax, reanimator said that ratings / locomotion tunings etc... still need to be input.

[green94]

Great video... very impressive YOY leap for Live/Elite.

I know someone else asked the question but I don't think I saw it answered, will the hand in the face animation still be in the game or will it be replaced by the jumping block that was demoed in the video?

[joel0078]

Quote: Originally Posted by mharlem

The game is still being developed, so how can they show us the final product? Appreciate what they're showing us and let them continue to work on the game.

Thanks Harlem, I clearly understand that....Let me break it down for you like this........Showing us a super fast game speed and then saying we all agree its way to fast, is comparable to saying something like the graphics are terrible and that's intentional at this point and we all know the graphics are terrible at this point, but we are going to show you guys what we have and you guys will just have to have faith that we'll fix it. And this guy isn't even going as far as saying that the end result for speed may still not be to peoples liking....

I clearly don't expect to see the final result right now, but I expect an honest depiction of what the end result will shape up to be...Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe this game speed or one similar to it, will be the final result. In addition to that, just from what I saw on the video, I'm losing interest in the game, I'm not happy about the speed, but thats just me. And I've been around here for years and I've been buying Live since the beginning, so I know how the hype up works and then the let down finishes. No skin off my back though. I was just stating my opinion. No need for you to run to the rescue. Its an opinion, that's all.

[dexvex]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos..... Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast. edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

Idk maybe you mis-read or something but thats not what he said at all so quit with the hyperbole lol. The reason the game looks like it does now is because the ratings/attributes have not been put in so the game just thinks everybody speed,agility,etc is set to 99. I'm starting to agree with pared when he said most people aren't ready to see early/alpha gameplay footage........

[SacKings1999]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

Thanks Harlem, I clearly understand that....I guess the point of my post was over your head. Let me break it down for you like this........Showing us a super fast game speed and then saying we all agree its way to fast, is comparable to saying something like the graphics are terrible and that's intentional at this point and we all know the graphics are terrible at this point, but we are going to show you guys what we have and you guys will just have to have faith that we'll fix it. And this guy isn't even going as far as saying that the end result for speed may still not be to peoples liking.... I clearly don't expect to see the final result right now, but I expect an honest depiction of what the end result will shape up to be...Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe this game speed or one similar to it, will be the final result. In addition to that, just from what I saw on the video, I'm losing interest in the game, I'm not happy about the speed.....It's fine with me, it only hurts EA to show something the game at a high rate of speed for whatever their reason is. It screams ARCADE and people will walk away from it. No skin off my back.

I understand your concern, but it's like Pared said, this is why a lot of game developers don't show early footage... you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. They can't show an honest depiction of "what the end result will shape up to be" because its still in development / tweaking. That said, I really don't think we need to worry that the game will be this fast. Really, I mean if it was, they'd have a full scale mutiny on their hands hahahaha.