NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

[rockchisler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

For the record, HoosierDaddy talked to them about this already. This is why I asked you to explain what was the difference from last year to this year. When you explain what you mean, it's a different story. The user can choose what type of finish they have after the Euro. In this video, the user chose a two handed shot. If you wanted to, you could choose to do a layup. The point is, you can choose what happens out of it.

Exactly, There are multiple shots you can do out of the euro step, That one was not the greatest looking but not horrible where I'm not gonna play it any more.

[HoosierDaddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

For the record, HoosierDaddy talked to them about this already. This is why I asked you to explain what was the difference from last year to this year. When you explain what you mean, it's a different story. The user can choose what type of finish they have after the Euro. In this video, the user chose a two handed shot. If you wanted to, you could choose to do a layup. The point is, you can choose what happens out of it.

Thanks Pared, was getting ready to chime in on this. I see what you're saying Czar and I pointed it out to the dev team.

[rockchisler]

Quote: Originally Posted by FootballForever

I know it's a work in progress, but why did the graphics look like crap.

Because its a work in Progress

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

For the record, HoosierDaddy talked to them about this already. This is why I asked you to explain what was the difference from last year to this year. When you explain what you mean, it's a different story. The user can choose what type of finish they have after the Euro. In this video, the user chose a two handed shot. If you wanted to, you could choose to do a layup. The point is, you can choose what happens out of it.

Okay that is fair I have no problem with that. Its just I wasn't there man I didn't get a chance to see it. I want them to make it the best it can be. You obviously know by now that I want the best game possible.

It might help when reading my posts especially directed towards you to know I'm not the smart *** type I don't try to out people or show people up so when you read what I'm saying if your getting that. That isn't me at all. If I have a problem I will come to you directly and not try to show you up. I am interested in them getting the most out of what they have.

In the face of all the 2k10 love I liked live 10 because of the direction. I never said they were there I said eveything I said about that product looking at where they might end up. again loving the direction. you have been to more of these things than probably anyone on OS. YOu know they can't fix everything but by pointing things out each of us can help make the product better.

There are some who hate EA i get that. But I am not one of them. I am just holding them accountable as much as I can I think i went too easy on them last year because I loved the direction. This year I am correcting that a bit and you saw my other thread I am cautiously optomistic.

that said this is a non issue for me if it is for you we talk about it like I said face to face when we meet.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy

Thanks Pared, was getting ready to chime in on this. I see what you're saying Czar and I pointed it out to the dev team.

Thank you Sir !

[mvb34]

Can't will all just get along ... lol I hope this game will be good with all the improvements..

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

Okay you made several assumptions here. We can talk about this when we see each other if its that important. I'm not going play this game with you here. It would take forever to hash this out because you are making so many assumptions. Let me say this. I never said you were in lives camp I said you were invested in the game. You have seen much more of it than we had your ideas were implemented into the game to me that equalls an investment of some sort. IE if your ideas are in it you will have more of an attachment ot it. as an example I sent live stuff on the post game and dynasty last year after both games came out. If that stuff made it in I would think its obvious that I would have an investment in that game because my ideas are in there. Please don't come with the I expected more of you stuff that is completly not necessary I responded to what you said, I feel you made an unfair criticism with the benefit of seeing something new that didn't exist. In addition your putting words in my mouth and forming discussion based off of that. How can we have a discussion when your pre determining what I say ? that is not a balanced conversation. and lastly of course you can shoot with two hands off a euro off that leg just not like that.

I don't see where you're getting all that, but I'll just leave it there. Feel free to hit me up because we've had discussions in the past via PM. I don't see where I've made assumptions but I'm always willing to listen, if you're willing to explain your thoughts.

As for what you mentioned, I could go on with any game released how such and such didn't look right. When you start doing that, you might as well get a video channel and call yourself Apex. And I'm not saying this to justify or **** on your point - I've already described and showed video why I think it's possible and how two of us asked for that shot to change anyway. So we're probably more in agreement than you think, but in no way is that shot "not possible because of his footing."

And again, I'm "invested" in basketball gaming. My ideas are in more games than you think. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean all of a sudden I have an attachment to something. People said the same exact thing when I went to EA early in '08 and said I liked the base of what they had. It's the same exact thing here. People tried to do it then and it makes no difference: A good game, is a good game.

In fact, I'd bet guys from the trip are reluctant to even comment because they KNOW this will happen.

I just expect guys to give both games the "fine-toothed comb" approach equally. If you're going to gloss over something in one game, make sure you do it for others as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by rockchisler

Exactly, There are multiple shots you can do out of the euro step, That one was not the greatest looking but not horrible where I'm not gonna play it any more.

C'mon, you would be playing Elite regardless.

[KG]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

Agreed. After reading the back and forth about the Euro-step, I went back to the vid and played it a zillion times over. Nothing I haven't done or seen before. But AGAIN we're still looking at stripped down, early footage. Not worried about anything, at this point, in regard to this game.

Same. I just think it looks awkward because you don't see too many guys shooting like that off the Euro Step.

I just spent a couple minutes in my cube doing the Euro Step and shooting an imaginary ball like that. Yeah it felt awkward.