UFC 2010 Undisputed Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by SIM RULES

??? I guess we are spinning our wheels now, and should leave this thread for others to express their opinions. I think I have made mine perfectly clear. We already have an arcade style fighting game called Fight Night, and I assume that EA's MMA game will be an extension of that. As a sim dude, I just prefer that games at least try to give the illusion of realism, especially with the fundamental elements of the sport.

I agree with your perspective Sim. I think you are perfectly correct about punch accuracy being the real issue and not the fact that the power shots do big damage. I also think a big factor of why power shots are thrown so much is the lack of stamina they burn. You should lose tons of stamina on throwing big bombs. Especially combos of power shots. You should be winded after a flurry of those. I think the full retail will have it toned down more so than the demo though honestly/

[goh]

I'm not even done. This one goes back to the uselessness of wrestling. (Not that anyone was debating the stand ups are too fast.)

I entirely forgot to mention on Saturday I also made a note to pay attention to stand ups in the Kos/Daley fight. There weren't any. Kos laid on him for a lot more than 10 seconds without doing anything and there was only one warning from the backmount at that.

As I said in the boxing forum they sure got the martial part down but it's lacking the mixed and arts bits.

AND speaking of Don Frye I dunno how I forgot this,this would probably the be the record for power shots to the face without a KO (turn off the sound):

[oChaos_Nine]

Umm, wow goh, just wow.

[Ghostf4cekilla]

let me end this punches land 10x more accurate than punches in rl

[Ifly8o8]

You wanna see a fight of a guy taking 5-6 power shots without folding? He'll I'll give 5-6 minutes of power shots. Watch tim Sylvia vs cabbage correia. One of the most lopsided and brutal fights I've seen in ufc.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

I agree with your perspective Sim. I think you are perfectly correct about punch accuracy being the real issue and not the fact that the power shots do big damage. I also think a big factor of why power shots are thrown so much is the lack of stamina they burn. You should lose tons of stamina on throwing big bombs. Especially combos of power shots. You should be winded after a flurry of those. I think the full retail will have it toned down more so than the demo though honestly/

that's my sentiment exactly. i don't think the stamina burns quickly enough in the standup. i dont agree with the retail version will be different unless that person has horrid cardio, or they patch it.

[murry]

Quote: Originally Posted by SIM RULES

Dude, are you seriously saying that KO's should not happen in the first round again? I think you guys are missing what the real issues are, and it's not the KO's. I hope that you do know that if you get caught with a clean power punch that you will probably go down. The problem with the game is the accuracy, speed, and placement of those power shots. In real life, it is very difficult to land the perfectly placed power shots that you see in the demo. So, if they add more missed punched animations, and shots that graze you, then that would address part of the problem, and deter you from being so aggressive. In regards to a patch: punch accuracy and fatigue.

This is the best observation that I have read, and you are totally correct IMO. It reminds me of why Mike Tyson was so good. It was based on the fact that he had great power, speed, and accuracy with his punches.

I feel that the demo does allow fighters to display pinpoint accuracy most of the time, which appears to be the catalyst for the debate. Fatigue is also a major contributing factor. Maybe if the punches were less accurate, and fatigue was calculated properly, then we would not be having this debate.

It is funny how those individuals that dispute the notion of your claims, are probably those that enjoy arcade style fighting games. To each his own, but I am with you Sim: I prefer realism any day, and all day. Do not even waste your time debating with people that love arcade style gaming, they really are unable to see things from a "sim" perspective.

I am still enjoying the demo, and will continue to keep my guard up, sway, counter and circle my opponent. Those options really do help you avoid big punches in the demo.

[SA1NT401]

Quote: Originally Posted by murry

This is the best observation that I have read, and you are totally correct IMO. It reminds me of why Mike Tyson was so good. It was based on the fact that he had great power, speed, and accuracy with his punches. I feel that the demo does allow fighters to display pinpoint accuracy most of the time, which appears to be the catalyst for the debate. Fatigue is also a major contributing factor. Maybe if the punches were less accurate, and fatigue was calculated properly, then we would not be having this debate. It is funny how those individuals that dispute the notion of your claims, are probably those that enjoy arcade style fighting games. To each his own, but I am with you Sim: I prefer realism any day, and all day. Do not even waste your time debating with people that love arcade style gaming, they really are unable to see things from a "sim" perspective. I am still enjoying the demo, and will continue to keep my guard up, sway, counter and circle my opponent. Those options really do help you avoid big punches in the demo.

I am the one KO'ing the CPU....Thats my gripe....constantly KO'ing the CPU...Thats what bothers my...Could make career mode kinda weak.

I dont have any real plans of playing online cept for here and there with friends.