MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

[faster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft_Works

That is not the way SCEA reads potential however.

ah hah! ok, sorry if i didn't read up as i should have. doh, silly me.

[bigal093]

I really hope its not too late, but there are a lot of problems on the pirates(what else is new..haha).

SP Zack Duke-D--was B or A last year
SP Ross Ohlendorf-D--was B i think last year...could argue he's an A (maybe should be, idk wat u guys had him at)
SP Kevin Hart-D--should be at least C i think he was C or B last yr.
SP Paul Maholm-D--should be a B
SP Daniel McCutchen-D--should be C min, maybe B
SP Charlie Morton-D--should no doubt be a B min...has GREAT stuff
SP Jeff Karstens-D--prob. C
RP Evan Meek-D--definately B min, maybe A?
RP Craig Hanson-F--tons of talent should be B
RP Jose Ascanio-D--C,B..idk he's on our 40-man i believe
RP Donnie Veal-D--prob B, maybe C
C Ryan Doumit-B--A last yr...is an A pot guy if healthy no doubt
C Jason Jaramillo-F--C pot possibly B(doubt it) quality quality back up switch hitter
SS Ronny Cedeno-D--should be B or C
LF Ryan Church-D--think he was B last yr???
LF Delwyn Young-F--prob. a C guy quality Utility guy hit very well last yr.

These next are guys im unsure of if its a mistake or not
1B-Garret Jones-B--its prob right but i didn't know if he's supposed to be A
SP Virgil Vasquez-D--might be a C, but i think u meant to give him a D idk?
RP Neal Cotts-D--dont know much about him but is he a C?
1B-Steve Pearce-D--Guy is not a D pot...C MAYBE pushing low B
2B-Akinori Iwamora-C--B? prob a C but again idk
3B-Andy Laroche-C--low B??showed great defense and started tearing up the ball near .300 but had bad end of the year.
3B-Neil Walker-D--C at least he's still young, but not a D...and not so insanely low that you rated him???? he was a high pick, he's got some talent.
RF-Brandon Moss-D--B last yr i think...he's prob a C guy though
LF?-Brandon Jones-D--dont know a lot about him but D seems low for a younger guy...idk wat u had him at originally

AND i was wondering...are you guys going through the whole roster set, or just fixing the guys that we list? b/c im sure people will miss some players.

P.S.---you know you have a GREAT game when we're willing to put up with this stuff...lol.....nice job jumping on this quick. but i still have to wait for knight's rosters anyway, so it'll still be a while before i go real hardcore into franchise.

[ocho cuatro]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knight165

For me... David Wright is an F should be a B Jose Reyes is an F...should be a B or an A The main thing I hope for is this. Fake players...about 30 A potential players...any more and that would be too many IMO. Tough to say on the B guys...maybe 100-150? Plenty of C's...and some D's and F's M.K. Knight165

I would LOVE to have 30 fake A potential players to work with!

[bigal093]

Quote: Originally Posted by cardsleadtheway

How do you think they get the ratings in the first place? They use the stats. In my perfect world, there would be no potential rating for players that have at least three years in the majors. By then you should already know what their potential is. They should use the three years of weighted stats just like they do to create the players in the first place, with an obvious decline starting sometime after 30. I really don't think it is putting the cart before the horse to use the exact same methodology that the developers use.

but the obivious decline at 30 isn't fair...look at a guy like the big unit who had his best years after 30...WAY after...and Garret Jones just jumped on the scene, and he's like 29, so ur telling me he's going to get worse in 1 year? there are so many factors, that there has to be a random factor, with guys who prove themselves to ALMOST all of the time stay at big league level and some guys to IMPROVE even after 30...its so hard to make the whole process work. And i don't see why guys in their early 20s should EVER decline...they don't the guys who don't make it just don't improve, they don't actually decline, they get better but only marginally....that is the entire core issue with the show's potential. young players MUST all improve to some degree. and some guys should jump up in rating at extreme rates that nobody expected. randomness, and its almost impossible to mirror this.

[Lisa_Bonami]

Couple of quick questions about potential:


-Is a player's POTENTIAL Rating always guaranteed to produce the player reflected in that rating?....I am hoping not

-Do all GMs and scouts see a player's Potential Rating as the same letter grade or do they see it differently depending on the talent of the scout/GM?

-Do different teams have different priorities or criteria when negotiating trades that reflect their own franchise's goals or needs?

-Was this whole potential problem an issue in MLB 09 last year?...if not, what changed this year to cause this problem?

Thanks...this will help me understand and appreciate the game's internal workings a little better

[econoodle]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigal093

I really hope its not too late, but there are a lot of problems on the pirates(what else is new..haha). SP Zack Duke-D--was B or A last year SP Ross Ohlendorf-D--was B i think last year...could argue he's an A (maybe should be, idk wat u guys had him at) SP Kevin Hart-D--should be at least C i think he was C or B last yr. SP Paul Maholm-D--should be a B SP Daniel McCutchen-D--should be C min, maybe B SP Charlie Morton-D--should no doubt be a B min...has GREAT stuff SP Jeff Karstens-D--prob. C RP Evan Meek-D--definately B min, maybe A? RP Craig Hanson-F--tons of talent should be B RP Jose Ascanio-D--C,B..idk he's on our 40-man i believe RP Donnie Veal-D--prob B, maybe C C Ryan Doumit-B--A last yr...is an A pot guy if healthy no doubt C Jason Jaramillo-F--C pot possibly B(doubt it) quality quality back up switch hitter SS Ronny Cedeno-D--should be B or C LF Ryan Church-D--think he was B last yr??? LF Delwyn Young-F--prob. a C guy quality Utility guy hit very well last yr. These next are guys im unsure of if its a mistake or not 1B-Garret Jones-B--its prob right but i didn't know if he's supposed to be A SP Virgil Vasquez-D--might be a C, but i think u meant to give him a D idk? RP Neal Cotts-D--dont know much about him but is he a C? 1B-Steve Pearce-D--Guy is not a D pot...C MAYBE pushing low B 2B-Akinori Iwamora-C--B? prob a C but again idk 3B-Andy Laroche-C--low B??showed great defense and started tearing up the ball near .300 but had bad end of the year. 3B-Neil Walker-D--C at least he's still young, but not a D...and not so insanely low that you rated him???? he was a high pick, he's got some talent. RF-Brandon Moss-D--B last yr i think...he's prob a C guy though LF?-Brandon Jones-D--dont know a lot about him but D seems low for a younger guy...idk wat u had him at originally AND i was wondering...are you guys going through the whole roster set, or just fixing the guys that we list? b/c im sure people will miss some players. P.S.---you know you have a GREAT game when we're willing to put up with this stuff...lol.....nice job jumping on this quick. but i still have to wait for knight's rosters anyway, so it'll still be a while before i go real hardcore into franchise.

so the whole roster needs to go UP?
come on now
lol silly rabbit.

[The Police]

The potential ratings last year worked fine, a superstar should have A potential, if he has anything less he will decline a ton ever year.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lisa_Bonami

Couple of quick questions about potential: -Is a player's POTENTIAL Rating always guaranteed to produce the player reflected in that rating?....I am hoping not Not exactly. A B rated player...may not be trained properly.....and if he has poor performance may possibly drop to a C rating....this happens in season. Also...the potential grade has a varied growth rate...(a B can get say 5-8 point per season in certain areas...usually dependent on primary position)...age is a factor(at certain ages players will "level"...and then later will decline regardless of potential......it is not set in stone and also has a variance factor) -Do all GMs and scouts see a player's Potential Rating as the same letter grade or do they see it differently depending on the talent of the scout/GM? GM's will see the ratings as their scouts do. Scouts have varied talent ratings. -Do different teams have different priorities or criteria when negotiating trades that reflect their own franchise's goals or needs? Absolutely. Team need...budget...team mode(rebuilding..playoff push etc) -Was this whole potential problem an issue in MLB 09 last year?...if not, what changed this year to cause this problem? No.....there was a bug when they made the rosters this year. You can tell that fake minor leaguers got a lot of the MLB players potential ratings....last year there were 7 A rated minor leaguers(fake)....this year 150....something swapped the ratings I would say. Thanks...this will help me understand and appreciate the game's internal workings a little better

Hope this helps.

M.K.
Knight165