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[Critical Kills]

We are simply point out obvious flaws alliance. You guys amaze me, you can excuse the CPU selecting the speed of your pass??

And it's obvious if you think bullet passes and lobs make no difference, that you can't throw over a LB for example, then you've not played NCAA or Madden in about 3 years. This used to be an issue but has since been corrected. You most definitely can put touch on passes in both NCAA and Madden.

I understand you guys have a desire for some real competition to Madden..but you should be holding this game to a baseline standard that you would any other game. You're letting your EA hate blind you. And while you may be able to debate a lot of issues like this in this thread you will find that when you get the game these sort of things will really affect how much you like the game.

[creed200569]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

I don't think that's entirely accurate. I think there is essentially 3 types of passes, bullet, medium and deep lob. Madden 10 currently offers about the same style imo. I wish it had a precision pass style like ps2 madden but it's not like other nexgen games passing is light years ahead of what BB has done with it in thier game.

Wrong. All Pro 2k8's passing is light years ahead of all football games. Its not perfect,but the QB drop backs,signature throws,amazing catches and great looking routes just look really good compared to other games. It just looks so smoothe.

[Critical Kills]

AP2K8 is not a current series though. I did like the passing much better in AP2K8 than in Madden though so I'll agree with you there. The receivers route running and the QB drop backs were light years ahead of any other football game. In fact I thought that aspect of that game was the best aspect of it overall by far.

[alliance4g63]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

We are simply point out obvious flaws alliance. You guys amaze me, you can excuse the CPU selecting the speed of your pass?? And it's obvious if you think bullet passes and lobs make no difference, that you can't throw over a LB for example, then you've not played NCAA or Madden in about 3 years. This used to be an issue but has since been corrected. You most definitely can put touch on passes in both NCAA and Madden. I understand you guys have a desire for some real competition to Madden..but you should be holding this game to a baseline standard that you would any other game. You're letting your EA hate blind you. And while you may be able to debate a lot of issues like this in this thread you will find that when you get the game these sort of things will really affect how much you like the game.

I will take your word for NCAA because I wouldn't touch that game with a 10-foot pole. But I have to disagree with Madden. Any so called lob you tried to throw had LBs or Dbs jumping way higher then they should to intercept or bat a pass down.

Maybe we are talking about two different things. I want a chess match in the passing game. When you are facing a good passer in a game you should notice it. He should be able to fit good passes in with finesse. Madden does not have this. You are calling plays and looking for the open man. I have never thought oh I need to take some speed off this pass or my WR/RB won't catch it. Or I need to throw a perfect pass over that zone or it will be intercepted.

To me it is just like the UFC Undisputed.. Depending on your players strength, skill and distance, the cpu will determine the type of punch you throw as well as if it will have knockout power. And guess what? That game turned out to be amazing.

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by creed200569

Wrong. All Pro 2k8's passing is light years ahead of all football games. Its not perfect,but the QB drop backs,signature throws,amazing catches and great looking routes just look really good compared to other games. It just looks so smoothe.

LOL, all right, Maddens passing is 3 speeds with no leading a wr like BBs. APF is still just on another level all together. It's almost not fair holding games to 2ks standard.

[alliance4g63]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

LOL, all right, Maddens passing is 3 speeds with no leading a wr like BBs. APF is still just on another level all together. It's almost not fair holding games to 2ks standard.

But even in APF the passes are still controlled by the cpu. When I throw a deep pass the cpu will determine where the ball will ulitmately be. And again bullet passes and lob pass don't make that much of a difference. Give me a game where the determined speed of the pass will be the difference between a catch or a drop or between an interception or a completion.

I think BB will definitely not be as good as APF but I also don't think it will be worse than Madden. The deep pass alone, IMO, already makes it better than Madden.

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

We are simply point out obvious flaws alliance. You guys amaze me, you can excuse the CPU selecting the speed of your pass?? And it's obvious if you think bullet passes and lobs make no difference, that you can't throw over a LB for example, then you've not played NCAA or Madden in about 3 years. This used to be an issue but has since been corrected. You most definitely can put touch on passes in both NCAA and Madden. I understand you guys have a desire for some real competition to Madden..but you should be holding this game to a baseline standard that you would any other game. You're letting your EA hate blind you. And while you may be able to debate a lot of issues like this in this thread you will find that when you get the game these sort of things will really affect how much you like the game.

That's just not true, at least for me. Point out a flaw in this game that you can't say is a problem and I'll agree.

Injuries is a big flaw. I hated hearing that. 3 speed passing is same as Madden's. The pocket is about equal to Madden's. The camera view in my opinion is innovation. It's like pro-tak. Either you like it or not, but it is core to what the game wants to deliver.
I just hate hearing knocks on BB involving parts of the game that aren't done well in the other game or knocks involving player models and such that were done because of potential lawsuits that's all.

[alliance4g63]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Injuries is a big flaw. I hated hearing that. 3 speed passing is same as Madden's. The pocket is about equal to Madden's. The camera view in my opinion is innovation. It's like pro-tak. Either you like it or not, but it is core to what the game wants to deliver. I just hate hearing knocks on BB involving parts of the game that aren't done well in the other game or knocks involving player models and such that were done because of potential lawsuits that's all.

Exactly my point. Good post.