Backbreaker Hands-On Preview w/ Gameplay Videos (IGN)

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

There were multiple cameras on Madden 2005, at least on the PC version.

I was speaking on Madden since it has entered this generation of consoles. That's when most of the beef when Madden started. The game has been terrible since it entered this generation with many of its elements.

[TDKing]

Camera angles ? I'm having trouble getting past the player models but I will try the game probably not buy though.

[SouthernBrick]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

allBthere - you can spin it all you want, it's a bad decision as evidenced from this thread. And wow that "you guys don't like it then everyone should just pass on it" idea really worked great for the 2K series didn't it? If what you propose comes true and everyone with a beef just keeps their mouth shut and passes on the game then it won't sell very many copies now will it? But you know I love the fact that if something basic such as multiple camera angles are missing from the game (and it's obvious that sports games usually have this, so your comparison to GOW not having it is bogus) that when it's EA it's a horrible injustice to the world that will inspire endless rants but when it's a competitor it's a game developers "vision for the game". Don't some of you guys realize how much of a double standard that is? I'll say it once again - a lack of camera angles is bad, be it Madden or this game or Blitz or whatever football game. All sports games, IMO, should always have either multiple camera angles, or preferably a user cam where each person can set their own camera. Also, just to be clear, I was in no way comparing this game to Blitz. I was simply stating that I keep saying that there aren't any other football games and that's simply not true.

I agree It is a bad idea because, I knew this will either be a love or hate thing(no in-between). Its not a good business decision IMO to have only one camera but, It is what the devs wanted but, I'm all for options. I've been saying this since I've heard there was only one camera angle.

I think they should of at least gave us noticeable differences to the "down on the field" camera angle at the least and not madden/2k type camera angles. Kudos to them for trying to be different even though it may be a bad design or business decision. I'm one of these guys who like the camera angle but, the camera adjustment when running is what I really like about it.

Your either going to hate it or love it. Simple as that.

Everyone saying there going to pass should at least rent it before not even trying it. At the very least online or offline tackle alley should be a blast as it was addicting on the ipod touch. I have said the same the thing to people about madden. Just don't write it off, just rent it first or at the least borrow or play with a friend that may have bought the game.

[DaveDQ]

This preview is proving what many have feared, this game's priority is to platform Euphoria. It's not about football, it's about exploiting this new physics engine.

You can't do that. You can't put the core of the sport on the back burner and rely on some other peripheral to lead the way.

[Afrikan]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveDQ

This preview is proving what many have feared, this game's priority is to platform Euphoria. It's not about football, it's about exploiting this new physics engine. You can't do that. You can't put the core of the sport on the back burner and rely on some other peripheral to lead the way.

can you explain this please?

what is the "core" of the sport, you speak of.

as far as others about the camera view.... The camera view is the game.....that is what they started with first...they are trying to bring something different to the table... I don't know how some of you can expect them to totally change their game this late into development just so some of you can have a Madden type football game not made by EA Tiburon.

you guys what Madden's gameplay with BackBreaker's physics and graphics.....if that is what you want...then you better hope some other developer uses this engine and creates a different football game.......and one will do that if they get the impression that the demand is out there.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

turftickler - yeah and just because Madden does it with one camera angle doesn't mean that we shouldn't ask for a user cam. Vision of the developer? BS man. Every football game needs a user camera angle IMO. I already see guys in this thread giving this game passes they would scream bloody murder about if it it was EA. I understand it's a first year effort but excusing only one camera angle, and a bad one at that (IMO), is not what we should be encouraging here. We should be asking why the game isn't trying to better Madden in areas like this, not equal them in poor choices. That is the only way this game can survive for further iterations. It's not good enough for this game to be as good as Madden in many areas, it's going to have to be far better in as many areas as it can be. And one camera angle is simply a poor design choice, not a technology or programming limitation.

I wanted a Broadcast Camera, but they were set on not giving me one. Just as Backbreaker stands now, it is better than Madden all the way around in the gameplay department (according to the videos anyway).

I hope they shut doors on the Madden NFL development team after reading what Peter Moore said.

Here is the link.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1073240p1.html

[TracerBullet]

After watching the videos (did this before reading the preview), this game has me less pumped than i was before. Tackling looks great but we've known that for awhile. The rest of it just seems lacking to me. I'm one of the people who really doesn't need the NFL license for a game to be fun so I could care less about them having that license. This was never a first day purchase for me but I am still going to rent it no matter what. Hopefully I get a different feeling when I actually play it becasue right now it seems to me like this game is all about Euphoria (which is great technology) and not much else. I just want something fun and I'm still optomistic that they can deliver that at least.

[boooey]

I have been saying this all along.. I doubt this game will be great, but it doesn't have to be.

This game is showing you what EA & Tiburon doesn't want you to see, and that is real time physics in a football game.

All this game has to do is get a real sports game developer like 2k or SCEA to pick up this engine and get it into their own football game, OR put enough pressure on EA to finally dump their outdated animation engines for Madden.. Either way, we all would be the winners in the end.

I would love to drop my $60 for a Madden with this real time physics engine in it.