Backbreaker Hands-On Preview w/ Gameplay Videos (IGN)

[Benicio10]

put me in the group of people that will pass on this game because of the camera angle. why couldn't they give us multiple angles? I enjoy the broadcast (god) camera because i can see the whole field and play football like a chess match.

if this is just a game about hard hitting, then i'll pass.

with that said, Madden should license this engine. the tackles look (and probably feel) terrific.

[granddogg]

well there is more games this buy madden or ncaa football

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by turftickler

The camera angle is their vision just the same as the Madden cameras are EA's vision.

Cameras.

BB has just one?

Madden at least has several. Not that any of them are great (though I like the Broadcast cam the best) but at least there's some options.

Though, isn't there a coach cam (but you can't control the players)? I know that won't be good for some, but that would be okay with me. I like playing as a coach more than as a player anyway.

Still, I do think it's a bad idea to have a cam where you can't control players. It's one thing to have a vision, it's another, especially in a game that's prides on customization, that we can't at least choose from multiple cams.

Yeah, not many games give a custom cam or anything (the old Dynamix/Front Page Sports games did and I haven't seen it since), but not many give you just 1 view and have to deal with it either.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

with that said, Madden should license this engine. the tackles look (and probably feel) terrific.

That would be nice, yeah.

Having physics be a factor and a fresh new engine would be great.

[Americas Team1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

put me in the group of people that will pass on this game because of the camera angle. why couldn't they give us multiple angles? I enjoy the broadcast (god) camera because i can see the whole field and play football like a chess match. if this is just a game about hard hitting, then i'll pass. with that said, Madden should license this engine. the tackles look (and probably feel) terrific.

OK.... Welll I'd rather play a game with one camera angle(that looks really cool)and some really good looking gameplay then a game with more camera angles and not that good of gameplay or AI.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

kjcheezhead - having a user camera angle or at least multiple angles is not something that requires a large team with lots of time and money. As to how high of a priority that should have been, one look at a focus group should have yielded that result. Simply take a look at this thread and you'll see what I mean. As for no other dev making a football game, what do you call the Blitz series? The mere fact that you and others forget that game should worry those that are hoping for this one to succeed. For me I'll give them a lot of the benefit of the doubt because I know they have inexperience and not near as many resources as some game devs do, but poor design decisions is not something I'm as willing to let go and neither should any of you who are hoping to see this title not come out of the gate to an EPIC FAIL.

what you call a bad design decision is something that I'm pumped for. All you're doing is complaining because in your opinion the camera is bad.
Did gears of war give other camera options?

some of you guys are SO caught up in Madden that you have become UNWILLING to EVEN TRY a game with a different approach. I don't care if you guys pass, in fact I wish there was a magic force-field preventing you from trying it to punish the level of ignorance I'm seeing.

Just because Nate Ahearn trashed the game on IGN doesn't trump gamespot and gamerpros. His was a lazy uninformative crap article which has led to many new bashers posting in here. It absolutely blows my mind that some people called the gameplay "bland". I had no idea IGN previews (especially by Ahearn) could be this influential.

I'm pumped! the thing I liked the least was the running plays in that video...but I'm pretty excited about playing this, especially road to backbreaker with my custom team. I'm looking forward to grabbing a new football game.

[Americas Team1]

Quote: Originally Posted by allBthere

what you call a bad design decision is something that I'm pumped for. All you're doing is complaining because in your opinion the camera is bad. Did gears of war give other camera options? some of you guys are SO caught up in Madden that you have become UNWILLING to EVEN TRY a game with a different approach. I don't care if you guys pass, in fact I wish there was a magic force-field preventing you from trying it to punish the level of ignorance I'm seeing. Just because Nate Ahearn trashed the game on IGN doesn't trump gamespot and gamerpros. His was a lazy uninformative crap article which has led to many new bashers posting in here. It absolutely blows my mind that some people called the gameplay "bland". I had no idea IGN previews (especially by Ahearn) could be this influential. I'm pumped! the thing I liked the least was the running plays in that video...but I'm pretty excited about playing this, especially road to backbreaker with my custom team. I'm looking forward to grabbing a new football game.

I agree 100%

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

kjcheezhead - having a user camera angle or at least multiple angles is not something that requires a large team with lots of time and money. As to how high of a priority that should have been, one look at a focus group should have yielded that result. Simply take a look at this thread and you'll see what I mean. As for no other dev making a football game, what do you call the Blitz series? The mere fact that you and others forget that game should worry those that are hoping for this one to succeed. For me I'll give them a lot of the benefit of the doubt because I know they have inexperience and not near as many resources as some game devs do, but poor design decisions is not something I'm as willing to let go and neither should any of you who are hoping to see this title not come out of the gate to an EPIC FAIL.

I know about the Blitz series. Look at the guys passing on this game already. Probably the number one response is..."meh, the game looks like Blitz." I'd rather not count that one.

There are probably a number of reasons for this decision tho. The biggest is they wanted to separate themselves from Madden. APF was a solid, realistic game that played a similar style to Madden and it failed. I think it was a mistake by the BB devs, but they probably saw that and said, if we do a Madden style without the NFL, we will fail too. Money, development time, and priorities probably played a role too.

The funny thing is, no one has played this game yet. We really don't know how good it is, but the camera has gotten mixed reviews by people who have had a chance to try it. From what I've seen, it's seems like it works nicely.

The lack of injuries, and generic sound(no commentary) have been much more disappointing to me so far.