Mike Wang Has Left EA Canada and the NBA Live Development Team

[GHUGHES]

Quote: Originally Posted by ataman5

Just one question, where is the online part of the competition and how many sales they got?? If you can answer that then we can do some of your cmon son moves together aye. Sadly, i've seen lots of comments like this on ea boards and these people in a very strange way are so relieved that Wang's gone, and they must be the favorite ''casual'' gamers that ea wants to sell their games. You know what i'm the casual gamer; all i want is a basketball game that replicates real life basketball; and you know what basketball in itself is already FUN, so you don't need go into trouble to make it arcadish, just make it real and see everyone will enjoy it. Sorry if i went offensive GHUGHES; but i'm against the ''general idea'' just like you commented that i've seen through on ea boards and some other places.

Cmon SON How you gone question me on facts

Fact number 1 Live 09 out sold Live 2010 based on live 09 having Ranked 09 club matches and Live 2010 having Adidas live run.

Im not about to Google sales from this years game to last years but trust me the numbers are down you can do that research on your own but I know it as fact

Fact Number 2 There is relatively no post play whatsoever how many times you go down low only to have the rock stripped from you just from trying to do a post move

Sorry man but the games now and days are geared towards the online crowd Evolution brother Evolution.

Who says you cant have a solid game while catering to the casual fan Live 09 was nice IMO and all EA had to do was build off that not scrap it out and do a 180. Add feature that nobody wanted ''LIVE RUN"and features that barley worked ''REPLAYS" Dynamic DNA which made bums unstoppable

Wasn't live also the game that had a patch that MADE THE GAME WORSE this game had more bugs in it than a decomposing animals body on the side of the road in the middle of summer.

Cmon SON Just as you said EA boards are somewhat in rejoice world I dont even visit that site that just goes to show you how many people were disappointed in Live 10.

And lastly what can be more Arcadish then picking a team and running around shooting unstoppable 3 ball all game Cmon SON

[Tomba]

Listen why even be worried. We are sport gamers...We've always found something redeeming in these sports titles esp NBA Live.

It's IF they take out editing abilities that it starts to dawn on you that you are then playing a product you have no control over and that means it would be THEIR total take on the sport of basketball not unlike say NBA Jam now or even nba street...

I'm not necessarily asking for open source code(well....) but I'd like to have the ability still retool it the way I have over the years. that for me is part of the fun factor in ANY sports game...the rosters and sliders. taking that out would be uninspiring to play though it's not necessarily even half the market of NBA live gamers.

The fact that beluba aka wang is indeed a hardcore sim guy and left because of the serious notion that Ea was not trying to be serious sim is a bit of bait and switch if they initially wanted beluba on the team to begin with...So it's kinda weird

The reason why their most heralded sports game is good and sells well is because it projects so much realism and that game is fifa. they rewrote everything about the game engine and it's become just a tweak every year thing of beauty. i don't even feel the need to edit it it's so darn good...if thats where Nba live can go then i'm all for it it adds a cheerleader section to tombasports lol. It could happen because the xbox is now moving into ps2 territotory where it'll be around for about 4 more years along with project natal stuff(which i liken to being at a amusement park trying to win your girl a stuffed animal honestly)

but enough lets see some gameplay lol

[CX1329]

Quote: Originally Posted by GHUGHES

Wish Mike the best but Live 09 owned 10 and numbers dont lie Cmon Son bring back ranked 5 on 5 team play and watch your numbers go back up . As for the hardcore offline sim style cat Cmon son who plays the computer now and days games are and rightfully so should be geared toward online play.

There's a very large crowd that still prefers offline play, or can't play online at all. I like sim basketball, but I don't have the patience to keep going online to play against people from OS, let alone join a league. Playing against the computer still is, and will always be the way to go for me. Now, I do play online at times, but only when I really feel like challenging someone.

[The 24th Letter]

alot of backtracking lol...some damn near had Mike Wangs engine quote tatooed on their arm...Mike Wang this Mike Wang that.....now hes suddenly irrelevant? Psh. I wish dude the best...all I care about is getting a fun basketball game...no matter who puts it out...cant wait to see what 2011 brings...

[sportskid84]

Don't know if it was posted but i think he's speaking the truth

[Benicio10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tomba

Listen why even be worried. We are sport gamers...We've always found something redeeming in these sports titles esp NBA Live. It's IF they take out editing abilities that it starts to dawn on you that you are then playing a product you have no control over and that means it would be THEIR total take on the sport of basketball not unlike say NBA Jam now or even nba street... I'm not necessarily asking for open source code(well....) but I'd like to have the ability still retool it the way I have over the years. that for me is part of the fun factor in ANY sports game...the rosters and sliders. taking that out would be uninspiring to play though it's not necessarily even half the market of NBA live gamers. The fact that beluba aka wang is indeed a hardcore sim guy and left because of the serious notion that Ea was not trying to be serious sim is a bit of bait and switch if they initially wanted beluba on the team to begin with...So it's kinda weird The reason why their most heralded sports game is good and sells well is because it projects so much realism and that game is fifa. they rewrote everything about the game engine and it's become just a tweak every year thing of beauty. i don't even feel the need to edit it it's so darn good...if thats where Nba live can go then i'm all for it it adds a cheerleader section to tombasports lol. It could happen because the xbox is now moving into ps2 territotory where it'll be around for about 4 more years along with project natal stuff(which i liken to being at a amusement park trying to win your girl a stuffed animal honestly) but enough lets see some gameplay lol

don't want to sidetrack but FIFA isn't even close to a sim compared to PES.

now, on the issue at hand ...

all i ask for is for a sim experience out of the box for any game. tomba, i know you love editing ... your work is well appreciated, but like i told mike wang before in chats, it's not our jobs to fix and edit these games...

2K is a dunkfest out of the box, Live is a 3pt shooting fest out of the box... tone things down to realism is all we ask.

[CX1329]

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

don't want to sidetrack but FIFA isn't even close to a sim compared to PES. now, on the issue at hand ... all i ask for is for a sim experience out of the box for any game. tomba, i know you love editing ... your work is well appreciated, but like i told mike wang before in chats, it's not our jobs to fix and edit these games... 2K is a dunkfest out of the box, Live is a 3pt shooting fest out of the box... tone things down to realism is all we ask.

Well, I won't use this thread to defend FIFA, but you can't honestly say the last few iterations of PES have been "sim" by any stretch of the imagination. PES 2008 was too fast, PES 2009 was a ping pong fest, and PES 2010 continues to be much too offense oriented, in that low scoring games in that game are the exception, rather than the norm. Thus, I usually rack up an inordinately large amount of goals along an ML season, which isn't "sim" at all.

But anyway, I disagree. It is our jobs to fix and edit these games, because we are not the target demographic for basketball games. Unless they provide us with Regular/Hardcore presets, then we will always have to do some sort of editing, because both the 2K and the Live series will always try to please the average gamer in some way.

[rockchisler]

What I hope is that we are able to continue to edit sliders and edit them fully if I want to start a league or a custom match, If I am allowed to tweak to get a sim game Im happy, But if im forcefed arcade happy bball I will not be pleased.