NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

[ehh]

I have no problems staying between my man and the basket on most occasions. Unless I fall for a fake or cross and move the L-stick too far in one direction and get off balance then I don't have much of a problem. I've forced tons of bad shots with Kobe and Artest. On most occasions I'm giving a step and trying to make everyone a jump shooter. With that extra step it gives me wiggle room for error and I can react and stay in front of the guy.

If anything I'd say that the AI of offense needs to realize when good D is being played and not force up as many poor shots.

[Muzyk23]

Quote: Originally Posted by RayDog253

How'd it look?

good

[FlyRice]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

I just sincerely hope the defense gets a much needed look next year. All the guys saying "defense is great..." I sincerely hope the developers are not happy with the defense. Of course, when it gets the same look as the offense did, we'll see people saying something different next year, much like this year compared to last year. It's passable this year. There are some great rotations... but right now, if I'm playing as Artest, I'm not trying to "funnel" someone into my teammates, I'm manning up on you and you damn well better know you're going to work hard to get around me. I don't get that feeling here. Still hoping the final fixes a few things. That manual contest button is useless in the demo.

I agree Pared. From the defensive blog they made it sound like it would be a battle between the defensive and offensive player. Mike even mentioned in that blog that there were some things he wasn't ready to talk about yet, but we still haven't heard much about it.

[stephensonmc]

Quote: Originally Posted by JSKYWALKER1

Is their a reason some of the EA guys won't chime in and answer some of these simple questions????? Steph????? Is it because they are aware that some of the things we are noticing exist and they don't want to answer?????? They read the boards how about some clarification before "LOYAL" purchasers of their product find thenselves PO'd

Gameplay is Mike's bag and I'll let him answer.

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by stephensonmc

Gameplay is Mike's bag and I'll let him answer.

Thanks Steph!!!!

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by bls

Your not able to do that now? It's really not that difficult to do. Defensively I think their is room for improvement, theirs always room for improvement. But that's one thing I like about Live last year especially against a human player. It was much easier for me to keep stars such as Lebron and Kobe in front of me when I played against another user for the simple fact I could cut off their angles and body them. It was a much difficult task in 2k9. And also, sending guys in certain directions towards your help defense is also a strategic part of the game. They do this is real life games as well. Defensively is the game perfect? No, but I think it does a pretty good job, especially with the help rotations. One thing that I haven't seen in this demo yet that was in Live 09 was defensive players rotating over and taking charges. Mcdyess use to do it a lot of times when I played with the Pistons online. I do think their should be defensive tendencies for defensive players as they are for offensive players. You have people like Varejo who are all over the court most of the time and looking to take charges, and people who look to block shots everytime on defensive rotations a la Ben Wallace in his Detroit Piston days.

Again, we keep pointing to the help rotations as a sign of adequate defense. The help defense isn't the issue here. I love the help defense... You should be able to take a lock down defender such as Ron Artest and almost bully the offensive player, not just "stay in front of them." You should be able to take Gasol and move Lewis from deep in the post. Your other points are exactly what I'm referring to as well. Each position has it's own little mini-game that the user should be playing.

Picking off passes is a very hit or miss scenario as well. I've seen a good number go through players.

The best way to describe the defense is adequate. The help defense is spectacular... but aside from that, the one on one man defense needs improvement. It needs involvement. Right now, you stay in front of your man and wait until they do something. That's boring. If you had to pick a side to play, what would you rather do? Not everyone wants to score, score, score.

If you (not being specific here) think I'm belaboring the point, you're reading my comments incorrectly.

Quote: Originally Posted by JSKYWALKER1

Is their a reason some of the EA guys won't chime in and answer some of these simple questions????? Steph????? Is it because they are aware that some of the things we are noticing exist and they don't want to answer?????? They read the boards how about some clarification before "LOYAL" purchasers of their product find thenselves PO'd

I wouldn't call guys out like that so much here, sky. The devs have shown a willingness to take part in these discussions... if they don't respond to general comments, there is definitely a solid reason.

I just want the other side of the ball portrayed as well as the offense was this year. I loved the inclusion of the manual contest without leaving the feet (go back and read my posts when I figured it out and was helping others on the boards)... but it doesn't even really do anything. You can't use it when they are shooting.... which completely defeats the entire purpose of it.

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Again, we keep pointing to the help rotations as a sign of adequate defense. The help defense isn't the issue here. I love the help defense... You should be able to take a lock down defender such as Ron Artest and almost bully the offensive player, not just "stay in front of them." You should be able to take Gasol and move Lewis from deep in the post. Your other points are exactly what I'm referring to as well. Each position has it's own little mini-game that the user should be playing. Picking off passes is a very hit or miss scenario as well. I've seen a good number go through players. The best way to describe the defense is adequate. The help defense is spectacular... but aside from that, the one on one man defense needs improvement. It needs involvement. Right now, you stay in front of your man and wait until they do something. That's boring. If you had to pick a side to play, what would you rather do? Not everyone wants to score, score, score. If you (not being specific here) think I'm belaboring the point, you're reading my comments incorrectly. I wouldn't call guys out like that so much here, sky. The devs have shown a willingness to take part in these discussions... if they don't respond to general comments, there is definitely a solid reason. I just want the other side of the ball portrayed as well as the offense was this year. I loved the inclusion of the manual contest without leaving the feet (go back and read my posts when I figured it out and was helping others on the boards)... but it doesn't even really do anything. You can't use it when they are shooting.... which completely defeats the entire purpose of it.

Pared that was not my intent to call Steph out or anyone for that matter and I hope it was not taken that way. Just wanted answers, nothing more. If anyone was offended it was not intended. Peace!!!

"EDIT" After re-reading my post it was too harsh and unwarranted. For that, I apologize to Steph & EA for the comments. Totally uncalled for. Peace!!!

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Jsky you missed alot of info and interaction going on here in the past few months so it would serve you best to go back and re read everything, blogs, previews, reviews because all of that info it out there.