NHL 2K10: What's Hot and What's Not

[baa7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

Fanoys are not real. People defend the game they like best. Look at [insert any name] he liked 2k for so long and now he likes EA. That is not fanboys.

Two different things. Anyone can switch their allegiance and still be a blind, ignorant, stark-raving fanboy. Yes, they exist.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by savoie2006

Yeah, and HockeyDude is quite the "Fanboy" himself, so I take his comments with the same grain of salt that you do Realm with Venom. As already stated by myself in response to Dude's post at EASports and by CarryTheWeight here, it's a two way street. It happens quite equally I've found. EA fans defend their game with everything thing they got just as alot of 2K fans do.

For sure, I never said it wasn't a two way street. I do find it happens with the 2k guys far more often though, I can't count how many times I've read post that play out exactly like that list Dude posted. A few people in this very thread come instantly to mind actually.

[lockjaw333]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

You sure come off as one. I stand by my feelings and this will be the last I comment on it having experiencing the mob mentality first hand a few years ago over there. I think its great that Waz has a single EA thread for discusion of ea's title since alot of former 2k only guys, myself included don't totally hate the changes EA has made the last couple years. That said its unfortuate that if you happen to like EA's game more no matter how long you exclusively played nhl2k, your opinion doesn't count because you're just an EA fanboy and Littman lover and the like. If you didn't like 2k8's controls, you're an idiot and simpleton and you're wrong for not liking them. Or that EA's game is still an arcade fest no matter how much it moves more towards being a simulation or at least having the options to play a more sim game.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but the real core of the members at 2khockey.net don't exhibit that type of behavior. Its easy to make generalizations about a group of fans. I could write off all EA fans (which I guess would include myself) as bed-wetting 13 year olds who foam from the mouth while typing complete nonsense, if I go by the garbage I see on the EA forums.

Likewise, there are a few members at 2khockey.net who seriously deteriorate the spirit of the site, and give everyone a bad impression of what the community is like. That doesn't mean we're all like that, and I'm sure that doesn't mean all EA fans are what the community comes off as.

I agree with CarrytheWeight, its really stupid and pointless to argue about these allegiances. Obviously most of us aren't ridiculous and are not just blind brand loyalists. There's always going to be the group that taints the reputation of a whole group of people. I just take issue with reading multiple times here that 2khockey.net is a "a laughing stock" and that their members are " a joke".

Anyway, my initial point was that I found the article lame, as many others. Of course differing opinions always turns into a 2k vs. EA war somehow, and I am seriously the last person to care about that sort of thing or want to start an argument about it. If you knew my posting history you would see that. But if you made up your mind that I am, then you can think what you want I guess.

I just continue to see the same people getting into large arguments with any and everyone, and I won't be a part of that.

[Scottdau]

My loyality is easy; I like what I like. If I like; it I will defend it. If EA had better presentation; I would probably be defending that game as much as Realm defends it.

[Scottdau]

That is not true Baa. If people defend what they like that does not make then a blind fanboy, because I promise you if another hockey game came around and offer great sim play and amazing presentation. People will jump ship. It is just how the world is. Now if they don't jump ship it just means to them they like their game better. Nothing wrong with that.

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

That is not true Baa. If people defend what they like that does not make then a blind fanboy, because I promise you if another hockey game came around and offer great sim play and amazing presentation. People will jump ship. It is just how the world is. Now if they don't jump ship it just means to them they like their game better. Nothing wrong with that.

Not to speak for baa (a precursor for me pretty much doing just that), but that's not really what he was saying. He said you were talking about something else. He's saying that while what you say is true of some people, it doesn't mean there aren't still blind loyalists that fall into the crowd. They simply switched loyalties and then blindly worship their new master.

It's not about just what they prefer, it's about the ones that become drooling, raving, idiots for something that they really have no stake in. It's not just silly, it's pathetic. It goes beyond brand loyalty...which at least, in some respects, is rooted in logic.

I prefer The Show over 2K baseball. I've found 2K baseball to be a joke for years now. BUT, I don't go in other forums (or even in The Show forum for that matter) and act as if the game is the perfect creation for everyone that all must bow before.THAT is what a "fanboy" does. I can enjoy my preferred title while recognizing it's flaws. I can be disappointed in the other game, while recognizing what it does do well. That is NOT what a "fanboy" does.

I see what you are talking about Scott (and would agree the term gets tossed around far too much), and you're right that most people just go with what they prefer. There are always the handful though (or more than that in the internet world), that can't stand not having everyone agree with their "side". I'm sure you've seen the people who jump around spreading the gospel of their favorite game. That's more than a preference at that point IMO.

EDIT: and that's not to say it warrants attention or discussion (I agree that generally, people just like what they like)...just that it does exist.

[Scottdau]

I know that is why I don't believe in fanboys. If they were a true fanboy you would only love one game and that game company only. If you change for what ever reason, you were never really a true fanboy. I agree with what he said, but I disagree about real fanboys existing. Mostly becasue if some other game comes out and is perfect they will jump ship!

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

I know that is why I don't believe in fanboys. If they were a true fanboy you would only love one game and that game company only. If you change for what ever reason, you were never really a true fanboy. I agree with what he said, but I disagree about real fanboys existing. Mostly becasue if some other game comes out and is perfect they will jump ship!

In a way I can sorta see what you're saying Scott. There are extremes to anything like that though. For me personally I think this might be the first year in a long time that I actually end up playing both games. I'm actually sorely tempted to trade some stuff in and give 2k the benefit of the doubt and snag it day 1 rather than wait on gamefly to send a copy my way.

I hope if there is going to be a demo they made the effort to either let us play around with the sliders to get a feel for how the game will play with tweaks/higher difficulty level, and that its a polished demo as well. It would serve them well to make that extra effort demo wise considering the lack of media and poor representation of the game in gamesite videos so far with default settings and non hockey guys demo'in it.