Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

[parrothead]

I know on the PC for lead passing you just pushed the left stick, as the quarterback was throwing, the direction you wanted to pass. Like for a high ball press up, down for a low ball, you could throw to outside shoulders, and away from the defender. I've never played any Next Gen games, but that's how it was on PC and probably PS2.

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by granddogg

So i guess all the ppl complaining about this td catch want the CB who is not looking to jump up and either get a int or swat..?? Wait i thought yall said that was cheap

No, what I'm trying to understand is how to read the route so you know the WR is open for the pass. In other games, such as APF2K8, you wouldn't try to throw that pass unless you led the receiver with a lob/fade.

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tampa Bay

You look at the receiver. In the video the receiver is running a post-corner against man coverage with no safety help outside (the safeties playing the deep middle). The DB in man coverage can't defend the corner part of the route from a trailing position unless you lob up an air ball that gives him time to catch up.

That doesn't really explain how to read he's open. There's no Safety help on most routes. Plus, lobs/fades lead the receiver in football, they don't allow the DB to catch up unless they are poorly thrown.

Either that's a lucky throw/pass, or there's a definitive way to read he's open. i.e. a two step lead on the DB perhaps?

[parrothead]

I haven't seen the video in a couple of days, but if I remember right, he doesn't have any outside help, or help over the top, so a throw over the outside shoulder seems fitting. My recollection could be wrong and probably is, if not that's my theory.

[Tampa Bay]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

That doesn't really explain how to read he's open. There's no Safety help on most routes. Plus, lobs/fades lead the receiver in football, they don't allow the DB to catch up unless they are poorly thrown. Either that's a lucky throw/pass, or there's a definitive way to read he's open. i.e. a two step lead on the DB perhaps?

I always read the area of the field based on the coverage I see. If the defense is in a cover 1 or cover 3 the db has no help to the outside. The WR gets a step on the DB to the outside. You can see that the DB got turned around in the video as Crayton made his break.

Another example, you read cover 2 and you're in a play where the receiver is running a post. You want to throw the post if your receivers gets a step inside of the safety and there's no other defender dropping into the deep middle to help.

And I meant lob up a wounded duck

[Tampa Bay]

Quote: Originally Posted by parrothead

I haven't seen the video in a couple of days, but if I remember right, he doesn't have any outside help, or help over the top, so a throw over the outside shoulder seems fitting. My recollection could be wrong and probably is, if not that's my theory.

That's what happened. He got a step to the outside on the DB by turning him around with a double move (post-corner).

[carolina_boi]

Quote: Originally Posted by granddogg

So i guess all the ppl complaining about this td catch want the CB who is not looking to jump up and either get a int or swat..?? Wait i thought yall said that was cheap

i know right??? that was a beautiful TD passand catch the corner got beat ! there was nothing he could do, he reached out and tackled the reciever after the reciever caught it and that was all he could do... it would be un rrealistic for him to just jump str8 up and swat it or turn 360 degreez and intercept it...

[carolina_boi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

No, what I'm trying to understand is how to read the route so you know the WR is open for the pass. In other games, such as APF2K8, you wouldn't try to throw that pass unless you led the receiver with a lob/fade.

well u cant be madd at the video, that sounds like a personal problem to me. You should know what players and what routes they run and who does it the best on your team. Crayton had the guy beat and romo threw the beautiful bullet so that only his WR could catch it, if he lobbed it then the CB would have had to to catch up, adjust his self and go for the swat or INT...