Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[shotgun styles]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

So, the system and the rules are unfair to you and Brady is a still a fraud? It's all subjective whether the rules are fair or not. Sounds like your blaming the Tuck Rule and calling out Brady for being a fraud because of the Tuck Rule. It isn't smash mouth football anymore, that was a different time and a different era. Brady is over-rated because he isn't a QB of yesteryear? The game changes from decade to decade. If you don't have an agenda or bias against Brady, knock off the fraud crap. The system or rules don't suit you, find another sport to rally around, like baseball. There is a game where the rules have never changed and frauds like Paul Molitor , Trever Hoffman, Kent Tukulve, Rollie Fingers, and Bruce Sutter because there never was a DH rule and save specialist didn't come into the 70's. All the above players are over-rated HOF's (except Tukulve, threw him in there because of the Pirates) that are system players only. They couldn't survive in the Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth, era.

Where did I say anything about the "tuck rule"?

Here's my position on the passing rules:

1) Throwing the ball away is cheating. Moreover it's a display of cowardice. Rule should be removed, and intentional grounding should be strictly enforced. This includes throwing the ball at a receiver's feet, and throwing the ball out of the end zone to avoid a sack.

2) Sliding is cowardice. Rule should be removed.

3) The five yard chuck rule is a joke, no one should be running down field unopposed. Pushing, shoving, and the offensive push-off should all be legal. Holding, and hitting someone you're not engaged with (head hunting) are the only things that should be fouls.

4) Cut blocking ACTUALLY IS dangerous and should be banned for safety reasons.

5) Touching the QB's helmet after swatting at his pass should not be a roughing call.

6) Hitting the QB below the waist (new Brady rule) should not be a roughing call.

7) If defensive pass interference is going to be a spot foul, making it a devastating call, then offensive pass interference should be a loss of down penalty making it equally devastating.

8) Enforce the existing rule against pick plays. This rule is on the books, but by edict of the NFL brass it is not enforced. It should be. Pick plays are offensive pass interference, and pass interference is cheating.

Will this lower the scoring? Yes, but football was never meant to be a high scoring game. That was a marketing decision made to sell more tickets. If you really want more scoring to make the game more exciting to casual fans, don't make the rules unfair, just make a first down 5 yards instead of 10. Then the scores will be higher, turnovers will be at a bigger premium, and defenses can still play at full speed.

[totalownership]

Quote: Originally Posted by rbowlden

WOW, no love for my giants!? Jacobs is the only one on the team in the top ten, and he is #9, not looking good...

Yeah looking kinda rough for us this year. I'm worried all over again for this game though, large ratings discrepancies usually equal arcade play

[Americas Team1]

WTF no Barber?

[Americas Team1]

I think the ratings guys are a bunch of Cowboys haters.

[totalownership]

Quote: Originally Posted by Americas Team1

I think the ratings guys are a bunch of Cowboys haters.

you're kidding right?

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Where did I say anything about the "tuck rule"? Here's my position on the passing rules: 1) Throwing the ball away is cheating. Moreover it's a display of cowardice. Rule should be removed, and intentional grounding should be strictly enforced. This includes throwing the ball at a receiver's feet, and throwing the ball out of the end zone to avoid a sack. 2) Sliding is cowardice. Rule should be removed. 3) The five yard chuck rule is a joke, no one should be running down field unopposed. Pushing, shoving, and the offensive push-off should all be legal. Holding, and hitting someone you're not engaged with (head hunting) are the only things that should be fouls. 4) Cut blocking ACTUALLY IS dangerous and should be banned for safety reasons. 5) Touching the QB's helmet after swatting at his pass should not be a roughing call. 6) Hitting the QB below the waist (new Brady rule) should not be a roughing call. 7) If defensive pass interference is going to be a spot foul, making it a devastating call, then offensive pass interference should be a loss of down penalty making it equally devastating. 8) Enforce the existing rule against pick plays. This rule is on the books, but by edict of the NFL brass it is not enforced. It should be. Pick plays are offensive pass interference, and pass interference is cheating. Will this lower the scoring? Yes, but football was never meant to be a high scoring game. That was a marketing decision made to sell more tickets. If you really want more scoring to make the game more exciting to casual fans, don't make the rules unfair, just make a first down 5 yards instead of 10. Then the scores will be higher, turnovers will be at a bigger premium, and defenses can still play at full speed.

Agree with some, disagree on some as well.

I agree with 3, 4, 5 and 8.

1. Throwing the ball away is not always avoiding the sack, especially close to the goal line. If all receivers are covered, why risk a throw and throw an INT. A mistake laden game becomes a real bore fest. I'd rather watch a 13-10 game, but if I had my choice, I'd rather watch a 28-27 game vs a game with a ton of Int's.

2 and others. We all know why sliding is accepted for the QB. It's to preserve the career of the most marketable position on the team. Don't you think Favre has preserved because of some of these rules? Would you like a Ben R or Peyton Manning become injury riddled if the rules were allowed to not protect them?

I agree to a certain point that the offense has less stringent rules vs defense, but those rules are in place for a reason. The NFL doesn't want the most marketable position on the field to have a short career because of injury issues. The NFL makes more money on a healthy marketable QB vs a injury prone QB.

Don't blame your so called over rated QB's, they play within the rules. Write letters or email Pete Rozelle or Roger Goddell. There is no need to call QB's over rated or frauds because they play within the rules of the game they represent.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by totalownership

Yeah looking kinda rough for us this year. I'm worried all over again for this game though, large ratings discrepancies usually equal arcade play

I disagree with that.

The arcade play was when ratings were closer together and the ratings didn't mean anything. Now, it appears they mean something.

[Broncos86]

Quote: Originally Posted by totalownership

Yeah looking kinda rough for us this year. I'm worried all over again for this game though, large ratings discrepancies usually equal arcade play

Everyone will always and forever complain about the ratings. The players themselves even gripe about wanting more speed, etc. Everybody is a homer and wants to see their team rated well.

I'm rather pleased that a "70" rating is the new "80." Ratings will mean more and have a larger impact. Gaining one point will be more significant.