NCAA Football 10 Pre-E3 Hands-On (IGN)

[heavy_hitter]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

thats it, pull out the casual football gamer card. If we didn't have hope or believe that the game was going to or will get better, and if seeking information to solidify that hope/belief is a bad thing, then why bother coming into the forum seeking pre-release information? Why bother discussing the game at all?

Because I love college Football and have played EA football since the first Madden in 1990. This game was a great love of mine and I wish it still was.

Embarrassingly, I logged more online hours under one name than any other person on NCAA 2004. Since that time it has steadily declined because of issues with the game being sub par to just down right piss poor.

The game just isn't as good as it should be because EA pours resources into stupid stuff. They should be working on the gameplay and add the stupid stuff to keep people interested after gameplay is fixed.

I want to be able to play this game and enjoy it. However, I am pissed that EA has taken away one of the joy's I have had in video games by making NCAA garbage.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by hayvis

If you can't see that it's incredibly disappointing for a lot of NCAA football players that they can't use Teambuilder to replace generic FCS teams in the game with real FCS teams because they want a more realistic experience then I'm sorry for the fact that you were born without the ability to empathize. You got what you wanted. Try to feel a little for those that didn't.

done putting words in my mouth? when did I ever not show empathy? I'm simply wondering why is it everyone thinks NCAA should have the ability to add created teams when in every other sports game out there you have to swap?

Also I really don't get how the inability to swap out 4 measley teams that aren't in even involved in the actual dynasty ruins this entire feature. Are you seriously telling me there aren't 4 out of 120 FBS teams that you can live without in your dynasty?

[hayvis]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan55

done putting words in my mouth? when did I ever not show empathy? I'm simply wondering why is it everyone thinks NCAA should have the ability to add created teams when in every other sports game out there you have to swap? Also I really don't get how the inability to swap out 4 measley teams that aren't in even involved in the actual dynasty ruins this entire feature. Are you seriously telling me there aren't 4 out of 120 FBS teams that you can live without in your dynasty?

Obviously you can't empathize. Why does the feature have to be in another game for you to feel sympathetic towards those that are disappointed? Someone could tell me that they were upset because WKU's stadium is not in the game. I would still feel sorry for them even though you can't find it in any other game on the market. You just seem to lack the ability to see the game from another person's perspective.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by hayvis

Obviously you can't empathize. Why does the feature have to be in another game for you to feel sympathetic towards those that are disappointed? Someone could tell me that they were upset because WKU's stadium is not in the game. I would still feel sorry for them even though you can't find it in any other game on the market. You just seem to lack the ability to see the game from another person's perspective.

are we best friends? how is it that you know so much about me? I do feel bad for anyone that's dissapointed, but you know what? last year at this time nobody was feeling sorry for me while the devs spent all their time working on online dynasty a feature I have never and will never use. and that's a feature that unlike Teambuilder or Season Showdown actually did prevent them from making strides in other areas. I didn't scream about it at the time because I understood that it was a feature many gamers wanted.

Also i don't know it just seems ridiculous to expect something from NCAA football that doesn't exist anywhere else. and your stadium analogy doesn't work because you would expect any other game to have accurate stadiums. i'm specifically referring to the inability to add teams to any season/franchise mode in any other game.

i really don't get what you're arguing here? I'm only asking fair questions and you keep saying that I have no ability to look at the game from another point of view which just couldn't be further from the truth.

[hayvis]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan55

are we best friends? how is it that you know so much about me? I do feel bad for anyone that's dissapointed, but you know what? last year at this time nobody was feeling sorry for me while the devs spent all their time working on online dynasty a feature I have never and will never use. and that's a feature that unlike Teambuilder or Season Showdown actually did prevent them from making strides in other areas. I didn't scream about it at the time because I understood that it was a feature many gamers wanted.

I would have seen your point of view, and accepted your point. You don't seem to have the ability to do that. I know that because you haven't once in this entire thread accepted anybody elses point, not because I know you personally.

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan55

Also i don't know it just seems ridiculous to expect something from NCAA football that doesn't exist anywhere else. and your stadium analogy doesn't work because you would expect any other game to have accurate stadiums. i'm specifically referring to the inability to add teams to any season/franchise mode in any other game.

Why is it ridiculous. It wasn't so ridiculous that EA apologized and said they tried to do this and came across technical issues with it. This was Cdj, the community leader at NCAA Strategies response, as he had talked about it on community day with the designers :

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You can't swap in a created team for the generic FCS teams in the game. There is some technical issue with it, I believe since they aren't in a 'conference' to be swapped out. I'm pretty confident this will be one of the first items they tackle in NCAA 11, they know people want the FCS generics out. For the time being, they did make the generic FCS vastly improved. Ratings-wise, they were absolutely horrible last year.

Seems like a very balanced respose to something that is a bit of a disappointment to all that would have wanted the feature.

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan55

i really don't get what you're arguing here? I'm only asking fair questions and you keep saying that I have no ability to look at the game from another point of view which just couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm arguing that you are being narrow minded in this thread and refusing to accept that others want things from the game that you don't.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by hayvis

I would have seen your point of view, and accepted your point. You don't seem to have the ability to do that. I know that because you haven't once in this entire thread accepted anybody elses point, not because I know you personally.

The difference is I never looked for anyone to see my point. I accepted what it was and didn't whine about it on a message board and show me one post where I didn't accept someone else's point? All i've really done in this thread or any other is ask questions about peoples POV I don't know how you're able to read so much about me off of that

Quote:

Why is it ridiculous. It wasn't so ridiculous that EA apologized and said they tried to do this and came across technical issues with it. This was Cdj, the community leader at NCAA Strategies response, as he had talked about it on community day with the designers : Seems like a very balanced respose to something that is a bit of a disappointment to all that would have wanted the feature.

i was never talking about swapping them for the current FCS, i was talking about adding on to the 120 teams vs swapping within the 120. of course I'd want the ability to swap out those FCS teams. I'm just saying I really can't understand how that inability would ruin the entire feature for anyone and it's not that i can't see your point of view it's that I don't understand it and you or anyone else hasn't been able to explain that yet

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I'm arguing that you are being narrow minded in this thread and refusing to accept that others want things from the game that you don't.

i don't see how it's narrow minded to ask questions of people when they posts their opinions. it's actually the exact opposite. I've already stated that i feel bad for anyone who's not getting what they want, but as someone who's been in the position for 3 years now of having something extremely important to them get left out of the game what you're accusing me of is just so crazy.

[hayvis]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan55

i was never talking about swapping them for the current FCS, i was talking about adding on to the 120 teams vs swapping within the 120. of course I'd want the ability to swap out those FCS teams. I'm just saying I really can't understand how that inability would ruin the entire feature for anyone and it's not that i can't see your point of view it's that I don't understand it and you or anyone else hasn't been able to explain that yet

I couldn't possibly spell it out any clearer. I want to play this game with all 120 FBS teams in their correct divisions, and to schedule a game with an FCS team that doesn't affect the outcome of the FBS. That is the way I play the game. I don't play Dynasty any other way and therefore I will not be using Teambuilder.

You have refused to accept my point for the duration of this thread. You've asked questions, but then refused to understand or accept completely legitimate answers. Not understanding another person's point of view is the definition of narrow minded, and that is why I'm accusing you of being such. I'm done. Argue all you want. For the understanding that you show others you may as well be talking to yourself anyway.

[blackscorpion11]

Quote: Originally Posted by heavy_hitter

The people that write on sports games at IGN usually have no idea what they are talking about. However, I just have a gut feeling that this guy is going to be right on. Teambuilder= Who cares? Flexbone= EA didn't fix the OL which is the entire basis for this schemed offense to work. That means this offense is still broken or they come up with a junk way for the defense to become messed up against it. Road to Glory= Who Cares? Adaptive AI= Nice. But I have a hard time believing that EA could develop and implement it correctly on the first try. Just my opinion, but this game needs to be started over from scratch. They need to start the game over and begin with programming the OL/DL interaction properly. Until that is done, this game will continue to garbage.

Star over from scratch, i agree completely! Blow this game up and start over using the ncaa 2006 gameplay engine.

teambuilder is Huge because an entire section of fans of this series enjoy creating hometown schools from scratch and being able to do that in online dynasty is VERY BIG to us.