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Old 04-24-2009, 03:24 AM   #345
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Re: Madden 10 Trailer impressions

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One of the most ignorant posts ive read.

You likely got infractions for violating the TOS that you agreed to.

Speak whatever, as long as you abide by the TOS but break it and the rules ensue.
is it really necessary to insult the posters? that is completely ridiculous...and I don't agree with their opinion....
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:25 AM   #346
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Lol basically what it is is if you don't have a pro EA-Madden agenda, you are somehow a troll. I've gotten a few "infractions" because of this. I've been posting on forums for a number of years, and was quite shocked that even the mods were that ridiculous. In fact, I look forward to the infraction I get for this. Speaking your mind is a no no here.
Yeah, its happened to me before. So whenever i say something negative about it. I gotta throw in some half arsed bs good saying.

They dont want anyone really laying it into Madden around here. I cant blame them though, the dev's posthere. They want to keep them here, it brings traffic to their site.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:25 AM   #347
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This site is governed by a set of rules that you agree to abide by when you sign up to be a member. It is called the Terms Of Service or TOS. The TOS strictly prohibits "trolling." If you don't know what "trolling" is, then here is the definition set forth by Operation Sports. Flaming, Bashing, and Trolling
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As far as your "pro EA-Madden agenda" theory is concerned, There was not one Mod or Admin on this site who was happy with Madden 09, and especially the previous next-gen iterations.

I know its hard for some of you believe, but we, the mods, are normal people like you, who want the best from sports games. We don't get a hard-on by handing out infractions because you don't like Madden.

With this said, I am going to bed. Good night, and good luck with this train wreck of tread everyone!
OK so now that I know what Trolling is can you explain to me where I was bashing a flaming any person on these boards?????

Ian himself said he was ready for the critique of the trailer and IMO it was horrible.

If you think about it this way as I do since I manage a large company that if I was going to put out a trailer it would show the best I have to offer. With that said I expected to be blown away and I was disgusted. If that is the best ( Thinking they would only show their best ) than I am pissed that I have wasted this much time on this game and communication to try and be 1 of the people trying to help make this game better.

If this is trolling than I should stop posting on this board or forum.
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:26 AM   #348
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Re: Madden 10 Trailer impressions

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My breakdown of the negatives from the video which I must say was a huge disappointment.

1. OL/DL still needs a lot of work. Where are the double teams? Why do the linemen look lost? There NEEDS to be double teams for the 3-4 to ever work correctly. Why don't the lost linemen help out a fellow lineman. BOOM two problems solved! No more lost linemen and double teams.
Lost linemen!




63 on Cards was the most lost of them all. Maybe he just has low awareness?

There has to be a double team on Casey Hampton!

A return of an ugly animation and 325 Hampton in the air! I think 75's neck must have snapped! Also I am pretty sure this is totally
unrealistic.
2. Throwing animations really don't look improved and still look quite bad.
The whole Ben Roethlisberger really epitomized this.




3. I guess we still don't have realistic player locomotion and phsyics
Players can still unrealistically turn on a dime

So much separation!

Now he's running away from the man he is suppose to be covering!

Then BOOM! Once the ball is thrown he is magically facing the correct way again and running with his receiver! How did he do that? Is he super human?

Holmes looking for someone to block... finds him and...

BOOM turns around on a dime!
4. Running animations still don't look that fluid.

Pictures can't really show this but ya...
5. Other random observations

CB is not looking at the ball

I've always felt as if the break-tackle animations are the defenders letting go instead of the ball carrier breaking through.

I am pretty sure this is a double team in man coverage and why are the defenders not looking at Fitz? Is that how he got so much separation?



That whole sequence right there reminded me of the coverage from M09 which is not a good thing. Also, the running animations still look bad.

Hopefully Ian can read all the feedback from this thread and try to do as much as possible! This video was quite discouraging

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Old 04-24-2009, 03:26 AM   #349
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I said his post was ignorant not him, and it was. That's not insulting him as much as it is going after his post which is going against the rules of the forums
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:27 AM   #350
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Re: Madden 10 Trailer impressions

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My breakdown of the negatives from the video which I must say was a huge disappointment.

1. OL/DL still needs a lot of work. Where are the double teams? Why do the linemen look lost? There NEEDS to be double teams for the 3-4 to ever work correctly. Why don't the lost linemen help out a fellow lineman. BOOM two problems solved! No more lost linemen and double teams.
Lost linemen!




63 on Cards was the most lost of them all. Maybe he just has low awareness?

There has to be a double team on Casey Hampton!

A return of an ugly animation and 325 Hampton in the air! I think 75's neck must have snapped! Also I am pretty sure this is totally
unrealistic.
2. Throwing animations really don't look improved and still look quite bad.
The whole Ben Roethlisberger really epitomized this.




3. I guess we still don't have realistic player locomotion and phsyics
Players can still unrealistically turn on a dime

So much separation!

Now he's running away from the man he is suppose to be covering!

Then BOOM! Once the ball is thrown he is magically facing the correct way again and running with his receiver! How did he do that? Is he super human?

Holmes looking for someone to block... finds him and...

BOOM turns around on a dime!
4. Running animations still don't look that fluid.

Pictures can't really show this but ya...
5. Other random observations

CB is not looking at the ball

I've always felt as if the break-tackle animations are the defenders letting go instead of the ball carrier breaking through.

I am pretty sure this is a double team in man coverage and why are the defenders not looking at Fitz? Is that how he got so much separation?



That whole sequence right there reminded me of the coverage from M09 which is not a good thing. Also, the running animations still look bad.

Hopefully Ian can read all the feedback from this thread and try to do as much as possible! This video was quite discouraging

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Oh how true some of that is, i think the new gang tackling almost looks good but i dont like the way they all step really quickly, it just doesnt look quite right. I know it happens in real life sometimes but like ^ said, looks like they let go, never see willie parker break out of a two man tackle
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:28 AM   #351
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I said his post was ignorant not him, and it was. That's not insulting him as much as it is going after his post which is going against the rules of the forums
that is a cowards way out of insulting someone, if you insult a persons opinion that they hold strongly than you are insulting a part of them...
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:29 AM   #352
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Re: Madden 10 Trailer impressions

Unfortunately for Ian and his team their blog's generated so much hype and excitement that Madden NFL 10 will never live up to expectations.

I did however see some nice touches in the trailer, but won't pass final judgement untill I've seen a proper play by play gameplay movie.

Dissapointingly, running animations and throwing animations still looks terrible. DL/OL gameplay seems just as useless as in the past. Overall, it seems as if it can be better than previous installments of Madden, but I can't help to feel dissapointed, I expected something far better, especially after all the blog's I've read. It still seems way to much like previous installments, and the improvements aren't as radicall as stated by Ian, and only seem to be minor. Hopefully we will have a decent gameplay movie soon and not a show off trailer.
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