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Old 04-24-2009, 04:05 AM   #425
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No one will believe us anyways, I'll just let an actual gameplay video hush the critics.
So is that a yes to both questions? Give me a high five if the answer is yes.
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:07 AM   #426
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I think I'll use my Madden NFL 10 money to buy Mafia II.
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:07 AM   #427
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Pretty much

Anyways, it could just be that video is compressed or something so that it makes seem as if the animations seem jerky/choppy. I know you and Adem have played it so can you guys possibly comment on the animations? Are they smoother than the video? Are there multiple QB animations?
I'll just be frank... this trailer sucks. It isn't the game I played. I didn't see players standing around like morons, I didn't see the entire team change directions at once, I didn't see cornerbacks morphing through their own backs to be facing the other way. That crap didn't happen in the game I played. I certainly didn't see two defenders having their own personal footrace while a receiver went off in another direction during a play.

This trailer was clearly not intended to be torn asunder by the community, but for crying out loud, a lot of momentum was lost here because of whoever put this video together. I have to believe it wasn't anyone on the actual development team, because I can't believe they would shoot themselves in the foot like this.

I'm actually angry. This makes me look the *** because I've been talking this game up since before I played it, and when I did play it, I wasn't disappointed at all. A few things were questionable, but it wasn't like this.

I'm glad they got Pro-Tak in the video, because pro-tak is awesome. They got a few new animations, and yes, unfortunately, we're getting the same poor basic running animation, and yes, quarterbacks still do that goofy knee bend when they throw, but overall, animation-wise...

Okay, look, I was the guy who sat there amongst 2 2k5 fans and I was the one who said Madden did not top 2k5 in terms of animations. The two guys... The Watcher and LBzrule... both looked at me like I was friggin' nuts. So take that for what it's worth.
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:08 AM   #428
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its just foolish to take the word of anyone on the EA payroll/on the inside, playing advanced copies, getting invites to events, free games, who knows what else, because its been the same thing for the last two years. I realize it may not be the same people, but there were those "in the know", and whatever you want to call them defending the merits of Madden 08 and 09, I know this from memory. I hope everyone makes a responsible decision with their money that isnt based on their own observations and not the word of anyone else. they will work you until the end.
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I'll just be frank... this trailer sucks. It isn't the game I played. I didn't see players standing around like morons, I didn't see the entire team change directions at once, I didn't see cornerbacks morphing through their own backs to be facing the other way. That crap didn't happen in the game I played. I certainly didn't see two defenders having their own personal footrace while a receiver went off in another direction during a play.

This trailer was clearly not intended to be torn asunder by the community, but for crying out loud, a lot of momentum was lost here because of whoever put this video together. I have to believe it wasn't anyone on the actual development team, because I can't believe they would shoot themselves in the foot like this.

I'm actually angry. This makes me look the *** because I've been talking this game up since before I played it, and when I did play it, I wasn't disappointed at all. A few things were questionable, but it wasn't like this.

I'm glad they got Pro-Tak in the video, because pro-tak is awesome. They got a few new animations, and yes, unfortunately, we're getting the same poor basic running animation, and yes, quarterbacks still do that goofy knee bend when they throw, but overall, animation-wise...

Okay, look, I was the guy who sat there amongst 2 2k5 fans and I was the one who said Madden did not top 2k5 in terms of animations. The two guys... The Watcher and LBzrule... both looked at me like I was friggin' nuts. So take that for what it's worth.
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Just wanted to drop in and say hello from my hotel in NYC. Long day today - up early and demo'ed Madden 10 to a TON of press people from 10 to 4. It was good to meet a lot of folks I hadn't really talked to much before like Brian Ekberg from Gamespot, PastaPadre, and Chris from NCAA Strategies (and many many more people that I will have to check back in my contact list to remember their names). The game showed pretty well (I believe) - we are holding a ton of stuff back until E3 so I felt really hamstrung with what we could show today, but just the PRO-TAK tech alone really wowed a ton of people...so that was encouraging. After an event like this it's a good reminder to all the tuning we still have to do as a few things were still 'cringe-worthy' (as I call them), but all in all I think the reactions were quite positive even we were showing what I believe was an extremely limited demo.

Speaking of PRO-TAK, it is going to be on display in the video on GTTV tonight, so I can't wait for you guys to see it. I am dead for tonight and have a ton of stuff booked tomorrow so I don't know if I'll be on after the video displays, but I look forward to you all picking apart everything as usual and finding the good and bad. You'll see some stuff that you don't like I'm sure (I know I did), but I really hope you get a bit of a surprise when you see PRO-TAK on full display. Looking forward to the impressions...

Peace out - see you in a few days.
So let me list what I thought was good and bad......

The good.......

  • Gang Tackling
  • OL/DL Interaction is good but not great
  • On field Refs
The Bad.........

  • It seems like the center for both teams was in no mans land every time.
  • That was either a poor trailer by GT or the graphics were not that great at all.
  • Throwing Motion was robotic
  • Player movement was robotic and stiff as a board.
  • Player movement was same as Madden 09 IMO
  • Defensive Backs like the double team on Fitz was not even looking at him.
  • There was no pocket formed at all from what I seen.
  • The same branching tackle animation in Madden 10 as was in 09. When you see a finesse back like Willie Parker move a pile and break out of 2 players doubling up on a tackle is pathetic. No wonder Ian got 300+ yards with Brandon Jacobs when he played.
  • Seemed like the refs was getting knocked down every play. You hardly ever see this in the NFL.
  • The towels were not animated to sway as the player moves.
  • The player models looked horrible with there arms, helmets, face mask, and more.
Think about what you just saw and ask yourself this question....

If I was going to make a game and put a trailer of that game on a national exclusive would I want the best my new game has to offer in that trailer? The answer for everyone would be yes.

No answer this.....

If that is the best that Madden 10 has to offer than how can you be happy with the product?

I will say this again in normal letters..... If this is what Madden 10 will be than.....

No Sell!
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:10 AM   #431
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i think ppl are taking a bit more out of this than was intended honestly i think this was just to show case the new animations mainly the protak tech and we should honestly wait to see some in game footage before we go making huge judgements
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:11 AM   #432
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I noticed the Warner release and pointed it out in a couple threads, I don't believe anyone commented on it. I thought that was awesome and I'm pumped to see some other qb's.
what does it matter if he looks like a crab from the waist down?
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