Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

[DC]

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No, they don't need to go back to the drawing board. They need to do that if it NEVER happens, which is what you're saying you're NOT saying.

COme on Pared, how does this sound.

So ONLY if something NEVER works does it need to be carefully looked at again?

Go back to the drawing board, re-work, look at again. Same thing, different words. Stop nitpicking about word choice man PLEASE. You are being real petty right now man.

We are on the same page like J said.

The help defense needs to improve. Is that better? Damn.........

Why the hell are we talking abotu help defense when everyone knows it needs work

I'm out man I don't even know what this topic is about anymore

[Benicio10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

I absolutely know what you're talking about. I used to post sliders on here for guys that didn't have the time. I did what you did.. for the community. But you hit a point where either you can't fix something and accept it or you see something that you don't think is believable and go right back to altering sliders. Using my previous example, if TD hit a 3 pointer against you to send a game to OT, you would either adjust the sliders or blame it on the rosters. The problem is some in the community, here, love to extrapolate their examples to appear comedic to boards. It's a contest to see who can be the most ridiculous. If I were a dev., I would scratch my head because people post things like "Shaq be hittin' fadeaways all the time yo!" There's no possible way they can improve a game off comments like that. Especially when their ridiculous examples aren't the norm.

i know what you mean about those guys,

but i think the hardcore community has expressed far more than enough substance to warrant these changes. And even without the community, how come I see it? If the devs want to make realistic FG%'s but aren't it means they're incompetent. And i dont think they are. They just want to make an arcadey game and that's fine. But i'm going to walk away if that's the case.

i never changed sliders off 1 shot, i always looked at large sample sizes before i made a change. it's slider editing 101. if the overall %'s are in line and TD hits a 3, it's ok. I'm confident that the 3's arent too high since ray allen went 3-11 from behind the arc last time i played with him. you know what i mean?

But to sum this all up, 2K does need to communicate with us their design objectives for this game for 2 reasons...

1. it's becoming an industry standard, not just in gaming but all of the tech industry.

2. the hardcore followers of this game (who want sim) are beginning to lose confidence in the franchise's ability to replicate real NBA basketball.

[DC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

You said your teammates don't help but you've also said you hardly use lock on. Maybe you should start.

Explain please...........Me using lock defense will trigger help?

[DC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

But to sum this all up, 2K does need to communicate with us their design objectives for this game for 2 reasons... 1. it's becoming an industry standard, not just in gaming but all of the tech industry. 2. the hard core followers of this game (who want sim) are being turned off by the product.

#1 is key. You see it more and more each day. This is 2009. Companies reach out to their consumers through surveys, email, message boards, etc.

I don't think it is too much or wrong for us to want 2K to do the same.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

COme on Pared, how does this sound. ...

We are arguing linguistics, but on a message board, your point comes across in the way you word it. Someone posted this and I thought it was hilarious:

I helped my Uncle jack off a horse.
I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.

So if a dev. is reading YOUR comments, at face value, it would seem like the entire concept of help defense is terrible and that's simply not true. As you saw in the video, the basis is there; It just needs tightening up.

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

But to sum this all up, 2K does need to communicate with us their design objectives for this game for 2 reasons... 1. it's becoming an industry standard, not just in gaming but all of the tech industry. 2. the hardcore followers of this game (who want sim) are being turned off by the product.

I'm sure they know this. However, it's not reason enough to warrant labeling them as "abandoning the sim gamer." If that was the case, the lead pass would be as effective as it has been in years past.

Quote: Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Explain please...........Me using lock defense will trigger help?

If you're locked on, and your player gets "beat" (as the game sees it) then you get help. If you're not locked on, the defense tries it's best to compensate but obviously gets confused.

Another area where the game definitely needs work.

You can also use lock-on to call out your man on switches.

[DC]

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We are arguing linguistics, but on a message board, your point comes across in the way you word it. Someone posted this and I thought it was hilarious: I helped my Uncle jack off a horse. I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.

You are gonna get me in trouble at work man

[DC]

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If you're locked on, and your player gets "beat" (as the game sees it) then you get help. If you're not locked on, the defense tries it's best to compensate but obviously gets confused. Another area where the game definitely needs work. You can also use lock-on to call out your man on switches.

Which brings up ANOTHER point.

Why am I finding out control related commands 6 months after the release. Can we get a manual PLEASE

[slimm44]

Quote: Originally Posted by luv_mist

What is the percentage of shots Nate gets block?? I could say the same thing about Ben Gordon who would be defended by taller guards. No offense but from jump shots, I don't think that Nate is block a lot because of his size as many would think. Maybe his close shots and layups but not shots like that on the outside. Could be wrong though.

Robinson 2% of his jumpers (2 and 3) and 7% of his close shots.
Gordon 2% of his jumpers and 18% of his close shots.
I'm assuming they have more midrange jumpers blocked than 3's but 82games.com doesn't differentiate.