Madden NFL 10 Blog: Franchise Mode Improvements

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by CreatineKasey

One thing to remember with Taylor is with his injuries he has less wear and tear on his body than other full time RB's his age.

Runningback-- the only position in sports where injuries actually extend your career.

[stux]

good RB years after 30 with 4 yard + averages and decent yardage:

Fredd Taylor 2007 - http://www.nfl.com/players/fredtaylo...e?id=TAY220162

Tikki Barber 2006 - http://www.nfl.com/players/tikibarbe...e?id=BAR025952

Warrick Dunn 2006 - http://www.nfl.com/players/warrickdu...e?id=DUN705495

Fredd Taylor 2006 - see above

Priest Holmes 2005 - http://www.nfl.com/players/priesthol...e?id=HOL627237

Correy Dillon 2004 - http://www.nfl.com/players/coreydill...e?id=DIL255767

Curtis Martin 2004 - http://www.nfl.com/players/curtismar...e?id=MAR543073

Marshall Faulk 2003 - http://www.nfl.com/players/marshallf...e?id=FAU138264

Priest Holmes 2003 -

Garrison Hearst 2003 @ 32 - http://www.nfl.com/players/garrisonh...e?id=HEA453213

Tyrone Wheatly 2003 @ 31 - http://www.nfl.com/players/tyronewhe...e?id=WHE081965

Warrick Dunn 2006 - see above


After looking for a while they do really drop off after 30, if you look you will find a few that are productive (600+ yards with 4+ yard averages) up to 33 and that seems to be the end of most RBs careers. After 30 I do not think there are many feature RBs that don't have the help of another back to help carry the load.

I think a FEW backs should stay decent till maybe 32 or 33 BUT they need to have really low stamina AND higher risk of injury.

[ryby6969]

Question for the devs, will severe injuries affect players ratings in physical attributes? Like if a hb tears an ACL, will his speed and agility go down until they are fully healed?(If ever, as it usually takes a few years for them to be completely healed)

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by stux

good RB years after 30 with 4 yard + averages and decent yardage: Fredd Taylor 2007 - http://www.nfl.com/players/fredtaylo...e?id=TAY220162 Tikki Barber 2006 - http://www.nfl.com/players/tikibarbe...e?id=BAR025952 Warrick Dunn 2006 - http://www.nfl.com/players/warrickdu...e?id=DUN705495 Fredd Taylor 2006 - see above Priest Holmes 2005 - http://www.nfl.com/players/priesthol...e?id=HOL627237 Correy Dillon 2004 - http://www.nfl.com/players/coreydill...e?id=DIL255767 Curtis Martin 2004 - http://www.nfl.com/players/curtismar...e?id=MAR543073 Marshall Faulk 2003 - http://www.nfl.com/players/marshallf...e?id=FAU138264 Priest Holmes 2003 - Garrison Hearst 2003 @ 32 - http://www.nfl.com/players/garrisonh...e?id=HEA453213 Tyrone Wheatly 2003 @ 31 - http://www.nfl.com/players/tyronewhe...e?id=WHE081965 Warrick Dunn 2006 - see above After looking for a while they do really drop off after 30, if you look you will find a few that are productive (600+ yards with 4+ yard averages) up to 33 and that seems to be the end of most RBs careers. After 30 I do not think there are many feature RBs that don't have the help of another back to help carry the load. I think a FEW backs should stay decent till maybe 32 or 33 BUT they need to have really low stamina AND higher risk of injury.

Marcus allen is the only one I found that went beyond about 32 or 33 and still played with any effectiveness. As far as backs remaining decent sometimes, yes they should. However these backs were mostly not elite by that age.

Fred at 31 was a solid back but was not an every down back. He was very productive though sharing carries with MJD and was a solid starter, probably a mid 80s quality player.

Tiki was great but that line was really underrated at that point. Pretty much the same group is now considered the best or one of the best olines in the NFL. I would have said he maintained a mid to high 80s level play though.

Warrick after he turned 31 had that one solid 1100 yard season and then dropped off. Probably mid 80s

Priest after he turned 31 was solid in the games he played but was also sharing carries and never played more than half a season. Possibly high 80s but so beaten down by all the carries, nearly 1000 in the 3 previous years, that his injury ratings should have been probably in the 60s.

After corey turned 31 he played one season and put up decent but not great numbers. 800 yards on a superbowl team with a really good oline, I would say high 70s or low 80s

Curtis had one good season where I would have called him high 80s at 31 years old but dropped down to at best low 80s by the next year.

Garrison had a solid season at 31 but nothing to write home about. Probably would have called him low 80s then and then high 70s the next year.

Once Marshall hit 31 he was average at best. Maybe mid 70s.

After Wheatley hit 31 he did run for slightly over 1000 yards but it took him a season and a half to do it. Average at best production. Maybe mid to low 70s.

These players may have been able to play decent at 31 years old but it wasn't at the top of their games for most of them. There was definate dropoff in most of these cases by this point and for all of them by 32 years of age none of them were much above average.

[7stringking]

Quote from article...
"Finally we get to progression, easily one of the most often-discussed areas of Franchise mode in the community for Madden NFL 09. Donny Moore did a lot of good work with progression prior to my joining the team and I’ve been able to keep tweaking it since. Here are the major changes we’ve made so far:

• Older players will digress much faster. In fact, when a running back hits 30, he’s going downhill at warp speed.

• Younger players will progress quickly if they play well. We’re talking up 10 points in overall if he has a great year.

• Veteran players will still progress, but not substantially. They can also digress if they play poorly."



I may be wrong, but shouldn't he be saying 'regress' NOT 'digress' at the end?


I think digress means to go off on a tangent, not go down or backwards

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by 7stringking

Quote from article... "Finally we get to progression, easily one of the most often-discussed areas of Franchise mode in the community for Madden NFL 09. Donny Moore did a lot of good work with progression prior to my joining the team and I’ve been able to keep tweaking it since. Here are the major changes we’ve made so far: • Older players will digress much faster. In fact, when a running back hits 30, he’s going downhill at warp speed. • Younger players will progress quickly if they play well. We’re talking up 10 points in overall if he has a great year. • Veteran players will still progress, but not substantially. They can also digress if they play poorly." I may be wrong, but shouldn't he be saying 'regress' NOT 'digress' at the end? I think digress means to go off on a tangent, not go down or backwards

Already been mentioned but yes you are right

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcarr

Already been mentioned but yes you are right

Why do people get hung up on proper english and grammer its not like we are in school? I got yelled at for typing alot, others have been "called out" before as well, and now josh is taking it lol o well...

(this was not a "serious" post dont get onto me)

[PGaither84]

Yeah, how many people here forget that Tiki Barber retired "early" like Berry Sanders and Jim Brown while still "in their prime." Sometimes thisis the best time fora back to retire. Less wear adn tare and leaves a beter legacy. That, and the Giants were better off without him