Madden NFL 10 Blog: Franchise Mode Improvements

[jeetaa6]

The more they can bring over from HC 09, the better this game will be. This is sounding very promising for us Franchise guys. Can't wait to hear about Trade logic. Heck, if the CPU teams actually transact trades (instead of having the same guys on the trade block all year long with no moves being done), that will be a big improvement!

I'm also a bit wary of having RB's skills rapidly diminish upon hitting age 30. I'm hoping they put some randomness in there a bit, so it's not an automatic occurrence.

[debauchlord]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeetaa6

I'm also a bit wary of having RB's skills rapidly diminish upon hitting age 30. I'm hoping they put some randomness in there a bit, so it's not an automatic occurrence.

I wouldn't be too worried about it...I mean, your 99 RB hits 30, maybe drops to 90, 31, maybe drops to 85, hits 32, maybe drops to 78 or so....those are still effective numbers, just not at all mind boggling. It has been repeated here several times, but over 30, EFFECTIVE backs are almost one in a million. Tiki was the only back at age 31 to be very effective in recent memory. Bettis on the Steelers was "effective" in that with his size and weight he can fall forward and get three yards. Going back, MAYBE Marcus Allen scrumming it with the Chiefs. LT will try to break the cycle but it is not looking good.

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by debauchlord

I wouldn't be too worried about it...I mean, your 99 RB hits 30, maybe drops to 90, 31, maybe drops to 85, hits 32, maybe drops to 78 or so....those are still effective numbers, just not at all mind boggling. It has been repeated here several times, but over 30, EFFECTIVE backs are almost one in a million. Tiki was the only back at age 31 to be very effective in recent memory. Bettis on the Steelers was "effective" in that with his size and weight he can fall forward and get three yards. Going back, MAYBE Marcus Allen scrumming it with the Chiefs. LT will try to break the cycle but it is not looking good.

Bettis was situationally effective but as a back who before the age of 30 was held under 1000 yards once in 9 seasons after the age of 30 in 4 years never hit 1000. Marcus Allen was also still a decent option at times who had skills that could be used to lead to success but after 3 straight 1000 yard seasons including 1759 at the age of 25, and all those seasons taking at least 266 carries after that he only hit over 210 carries once and never hit 1000 yards. While these guys were still solid backs they were nowhere near the elite level some of the people on here seem to want 30 year old backs to maintain.

[red butler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Megatron2k7

Players should progress based on success, but the main thing they should progress in is Awareness. Everyone learns from experience. I feel that even back ups who don't see the field much should still progress in Awr. Not much, but they still should just by simply being on the team, watching mentors, and practicing. If players can continue to increase in Awr , then when older players start to regress physically, they can still be a decent player by using their smarts, not relying on their physical tools to get the job done. Example....... Your MLB is 33 yrs old. For the last few years he has started regressing in speed, acc, agility, block shedding, and maybe a little in strength. His awarness and play recognition however are still climbing a little (as long as they're not maxed out) if he is still producing on the field. To me, this is the only realistic way to represent the decisions to keep savy veterans on your roster, or fill it with youth. A "pick your poison" scenario. You can decide to have a lot of young athletic, unpolished talent on your team, or you can fill your team with crafty veterans who have the mental, but not physical edge. It needs to stay somewhat balanced, not just make the old players regress rapidly right out of the game. For example.... Your back up QB could be a tough decision..... do you want a 72 rated back up QB that is young with all the physiclal tools, or a 72 rated veteran whose arm is about worn out, but has great awareness....??? Which one do you want if your starter goes down, in the playoffs....??? (especially if you were simming the games, not playing them yourself.)

I agree with this completely. A player shouldn't increase in speed, agility, and jumping attributes just because he puts up great stats. I can see a quarterback improving accuracy or a receiver improving his hands, but most attribute increases should be in the leadership, consistency, play recognition lines of attributes. My only concern is that Awareness has no impact on user controlled quarterbacks.

[glitchditcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by debauchlord

I wouldn't be too worried about it...I mean, your 99 RB hits 30, maybe drops to 90, 31, maybe drops to 85, hits 32, maybe drops to 78 or so....those are still effective numbers, just not at all mind boggling. It has been repeated here several times, but over 30, EFFECTIVE backs are almost one in a million. Tiki was the only back at age 31 to be very effective in recent memory. Bettis on the Steelers was "effective" in that with his size and weight he can fall forward and get three yards. Going back, MAYBE Marcus Allen scrumming it with the Chiefs. LT will try to break the cycle but it is not looking good.

Fred Taylor in 06 ran for 1,200 yards and averaged 5+ YPC at 31.

[Matt Diesel]

Just a thought. Sorry if I missed it. Since potential rating is hidden, static (assuming), would we be able to edit it through the Roster/Player editor?

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by glitchditcher

Fred Taylor in 06 ran for 1,200 yards and averaged 5+ YPC at 31.

That will still occur. Fred Taylor, in his heyday, outside of injuries, could easily have been called a 95+ rated back. Now, maybe he's an 85-88... not horrid, 1,200 still well within reach.

If a top-end back drops 10 points in one year, he's not a worthless back all of the sudden.

[CreatineKasey]

One thing to remember with Taylor is with his injuries he has less wear and tear on his body than other full time RB's his age.

He's still a stud of course, just had to mention that for perspective as I see it plays a factor in the success he has at his age.