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Old 03-26-2009, 02:59 PM   #129
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You guys do realize you don't have to lower everything that does not corespond to that position. You can make THP 0 or 99 and it won't change the OVR of a K.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:12 PM   #130
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I doubt this year we'll make the ratings show up based on position, sorry. However I might be able to get the starting value to change, would it be better if all the attributes started as say 40?

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Yes. I'm down with switching all of it to 40 instead of 78. I would only have to raise a few things, opposed to lowering almost all of them.


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You guys do realize you don't have to lower everything that does not corespond to that position. You can make THP 0 or 99 and it won't change the OVR of a K.
Yes i realize this, but having a kicker with 95 Kick Power & 90 Kick accuracy, along with a 78 rating for everything else is annoying and unrealistic. By Russ changing the preset to 40, it will take less time to increase the attributes that matter, instead of lowering all the ones that don't.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:15 PM   #131
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Yes, 40 would be a better starting point if you can't make them position specific. It's still a terrible process to create prospects, but with the multitude of ratings in the game now it's easier to go up on the position specific ratings than to edit down the out-of-position ratings.
Ha, i missed this at first, but yes this is also my stance.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:16 PM   #132
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It bothers me some, but I don't lower them anymore. I use my Kicker as a Kicker only, so that 78 THP may be the best on my team, but I am able to control myself and be realistic with an unrealistic situation. But I do see your side of the argument and I just think Kickers need like 5 ratings. Kick Power, Kick Accuracy, Speed, Tackle, Strength.
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Russ, was anything added to Dynasty mode this year? Was recruiting fixed, and will there be an AD mode like Madden has an owner mode?
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Only one or two players each year are truly good enough to be rated in the 80's at 3+ positions on opposite sides of the ball. I agree that ATH's need to be a little more flexible, but some of the suggestions I've seen would lead to major exploitation of the recruiting system as it stands today.
I totally agree...I was being very general in that example. One COLLEGE player I believe would have fit the bill would have been Mike Vick, as he would have been great at HB, CB, WR, S as well as QB. Who knows, with time and weight training maybe even a LB? He was a rarity, I admit. Michael Bush was another, though he was no Vick as far as speed goes. There are/have been HB/WR/LB/DB's on BCS teams that probably would have as good or better at one of the other positions, but the depth chart influenced their move to the posion they play/played. Could you have imagined Bo Jackson as a LB or S? I shudder for the ball carrier if he laid into them like he did the Boz on Monday night...

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There is no reason for 3 star ATH's to be equally rated between two positions unless we're talking about WR/CB or OL/DT or OLB/DE. If they were truly that good to be equally rated at 3+ positions, then they wouldn't be 3 star prospects.
I agree...I would love to see in 2010 recruiting be LB, S, CB, DB, WR/DB, RB/LB, etc...stating all the position they can play. Let a player be recruited as a Safety and his overall be determined by which one you play him in (Free or Strong) and the system you use him. A Cover 2 SS is different than a typical SS. That's one thing I liked about MVP 05, it had multiple position for each player.

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All of this debate seems tied around the OVR rating and will likely be a moot point in NCAA 10 anyways. They are re-working how the OVR rating is calculated in NCAA 10. The only reason most players suffer such a huge drop between positions is that the AWR rating takes a hit. AWR is the progression rating.
Ditto on that as well. Brian Toal was highly rated as a RB and LB in high school. His awareness rating should pertain to a position, but not drop dramatically if he moved to ILB or TE. The other skill sets should come into play.
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Wow, I had to chime in when I saw the Toal reference.

That guy is my hero, what can I say, I'm from Boston.
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