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[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by bfindeisen

3. The guy saying Pujols is the best player in baseball is ignorant. The guy is amazing, but he is a one-trick pony (he's a hitter). Not like the guy is a 5-tool player, all he really does exceptionally is hit. I could name at least 5 better overall players...

so a career .991% fielding percentage means nothing? He hits for average, power, he can field, and he's durable. In his Big League Career(started 2001) Pujols has played in no less than 143 games(2006) and in 5 of his 8 years he's played in 154+ games.

He's hit above .300 in every single one of his big league seasons, has only struck out more than 70 times once in his career(2001 rookie year, 93), has hit 30 homers or more in each of his 8 seasons, has driven in more than 100RBI's in each of his 8 years, has had an OBP of over .400 in 7 of his 8 seasons, has slugged over .600 in 6 of his 8 seasons(never below .560), and has scored over 100 runs in 7 of his 8 seasons(2007 he had 99).

So please, explain to me how he's a one trick pony.

[kennyacid]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

so a career .991% fielding percentage means nothing? He hits for average, power, he can field, and he's durable. In his Big League Career(started 2001) Pujols has played in no less than 143 games(2006) and in 5 of his 8 years he's played in 154+ games. He's hit above .300 in every single one of his big league seasons, has only struck out more than 70 times once in his career(2001 rookie year, 93), has hit 30 homers or more in each of his 8 seasons, has driven in more than 100RBI's in each of his 8 years, has had an OBP of over .400 in 7 of his 8 seasons, has slugged over .600 in 6 of his 8 seasons(never below .560), and has scored over 100 runs in 7 of his 8 seasons(2007 he had 99). So please, explain to me how he's a one trick pony.

starting to sound like the guys on espn wit all the stats

[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

so a career .991% fielding percentage means nothing? He hits for average, power, he can field, and he's durable. In his Big League Career(started 2001) Pujols has played in no less than 143 games(2006) and in 5 of his 8 years he's played in 154+ games. He's hit above .300 in every single one of his big league seasons, has only struck out more than 70 times once in his career(2001 rookie year, 93), has hit 30 homers or more in each of his 8 seasons, has driven in more than 100RBI's in each of his 8 years, has had an OBP of over .400 in 7 of his 8 seasons, has slugged over .600 in 6 of his 8 seasons(never below .560), and has scored over 100 runs in 7 of his 8 seasons(2007 he had 99). So please, explain to me how he's a one trick pony.

Pujols is the man. I love that guy and he's clutch. For someone to say he's not the man has problems. Pujols is starting to be compared to some of the all time greats.

[kennyacid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Art1bk

Pujols is the man. I love that guy and he's clutch. For someone to say he's not the man has problems. Pujols is starting to be compared to some of the all time greats.

yup and hes only gotten better since he stop playing in the OF

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by bfindeisen

before anyone asks... Alex Rodriguez Mark Texeira Josh Hamilton Hanley Ramirez Joe Mauer

Ok, lets compare career stats for each of these players to Pujols. We'll use some of the most important categories(at least imo they are)

NOTE:GPA = Average of games player per year & FD% = fielding percentage

I bolded the stats that are better than Pujols

Albert Pujols

YRS: 8
GPA: 154.8
AVG: .334
OBP: .425
SLG: .624
FD%: .991
SB%: 63% (42/71)


Josh Hamilton

YRS: 2
GPA: 123
AVG: .300
OBP: .370
SLG: .538
FD%: .982
SB%: 75% (12/16)

Mark Teixeira

YRS: 6
GPA: 150.6
AVG: .290
OBP: .378
SLG: .541
FD%: .995
SB% 81% (13/16)

Alex Rodriguez

YRS: 15
GPA: 136.1
AVG: .306
OBP: .389
SLG: .578
FD%: .973
SB%: 81% (283/350)

Joe Mauer

YRS: 5
GPA: 112.2
AVG: .317
OBP: .399
SLG: .457
FD%: .996
SB%: 83% (30/36)


Hanley Ramirez

YRS: 4
GPA: 116.7
AVG: .308
OBP: .379
SLG: .527
FD%: .964
SB%: 77% (137/178)


I'm sorry, but I don't see how any of these players could be considered a better player than Pujols. If you have reasons as to why they are, then I'd be interested to hear them.

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

Ok, lets compare career stats for each of these players to Pujols. We'll use some of the most important categories(at least imo they are) NOTE:GPA = Average of games player per year & FD% = fielding percentage I bolded the stats that are better than Pujols Albert Pujols YRS: 8 GPA: 154.8 AVG: .334 OBP: .425 SLG: .624 FD%: .991 SB%: 63% (42/71) Josh Hamilton YRS: 2 GPA: 123 AVG: .300 OBP: .370 SLG: .538 FD%: .982 SB%: 75% (12/16) Mark Teixeira YRS: 6 GPA: 150.6 AVG: .290 OBP: .378 SLG: .541 FD%: .995 SB% 81% (13/16) Alex Rodriguez YRS: 15 GPA: 136.1 AVG: .306 OBP: .389 SLG: .578 FD%: .973 SB%: 81% (283/350) Joe Mauer YRS: 5 GPA: 112.2 AVG: .317 OBP: .399 SLG: .457 FD%: .996 SB%: 83% (30/36) Hanley Ramirez YRS: 4 GPA: 116.7 AVG: .308 OBP: .379 SLG: .527 FD%: .964 SB%: 77% (137/178) I'm sorry, but I don't see how any of these players could be considered a better player than Pujols. If you have reasons as to why they are, then I'd be interested to hear them.

lol...lovin the flood of stats CB I'll pile some on too

His lowest run total in any season: 99 in 07 (averages 118 runs per year)

Career postseason (53 games/189 ABs)

Avg. .323
OBP. .429
SLG. .593


AllStar Games (5 games/14 ABs)

Avg. .429
OBP. .467
SLG. .571

Some splits:

Situational Batting AVG/OBP/SLG.

RISP .344/.474/.671
Bases loaded .378/.368/.678
2 outs .334/.448/.616
Tie Game .321/.421/.612
Late/close .315/.440/.615
Extra Innings .318/.444/.788

He is currently 5th all time in career OPS (1.0489) behind:

1. Babe Ruth
2. Ted Williams
3. Lou Gehrig
4. Barry Bonds

He is currently 4th all time in Slg % (.6238) behind the usual suspects:

1. Ruth
2. Williams
3. Gehrig

Anyway, didn't mean to get sidetracked on stat tracking...lol (what was the thread topic, BTW..j/k)

Point is Albert Pujols is the best hitter today...and stays near the top in almost any situation. Add in the fact that he's an excellent fielder and recognized as a good baserunner as well, and I don't see how you can argue against him to be quite honest.

Anyway, the cover art is nice...lol

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

lol...lovin the flood of stats CB I'll pile some on too His lowest run total in any season: 99 in 07 (averages 118 runs per year) Career postseason (53 games/189 ABs) Avg. .323 OBP. .429 SLG. .593 AllStar Games (5 games/14 ABs) Avg. .429 OBP. .467 SLG. .571 Some splits: Situational Batting AVG/OBP/SLG. RISP .344/.474/.671 Bases loaded .378/.368/.678 2 outs .334/.448/.616 Tie Game .321/.421/.612 Late/close .315/.440/.615 Extra Innings .318/.444/.788 He is currently 5th all time in career OPS (1.0489) behind: 1. Babe Ruth 2. Ted Williams 3. Lou Gehrig 4. Barry Bonds He is currently 4th all time in Slg % (.6238) behind the usual suspects: 1. Ruth 2. Williams 3. Gehrig Anyway, didn't mean to get sidetracked on stat tracking...lol (what was the thread topic, BTW..j/k) Point is Albert Pujols is the best hitter today...and stays near the top in almost any situation. Add in the fact that he's an excellent fielder and recognized as a good baserunner as well, and I don't see how you can argue against him to be quite honest. Anyway, the cover art is nice...lol

Yeah, I didn't want to overload the circuit or anything...lol


Damn, those stats are impressive. Very impressive.

[JT30]

Ya I have to agree, I think Pujols is probably the best hitter in baseball.. although Manny might be close.

But as far as the best all around player in baseball? I have to say Arod. The numbers dont lie and he plays the toughest position in the field.