NBA 2K9 Team-Up Mode Not Fixed By Patch (Pasta Padre)

[Stumbleweed]

[Pared]

LOL Did Carter hit the game winner but time expired?

That blows.

[thunder008]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

The need to make ridiculous over the top statements because a person can't convey a view properly runs rampant here. "The [mode] doesn't work as well as I'd expect it to" doesn't have quite the bite that "they spit in the face of their loyal fan base this year with the 5-on-5" has. Someone would really have to explain to me why this mode garners such emotion, because I'm not a big online player. You'd think people were discussing online itself, but it's an individual mode that's being discussed. And it's a secondary online mode at that; I could see if this was head to head play. But there's no mention of the depth of the online leagues, of h2h play, of the other online gameplay modes which apparently run w/o major issues. But since this one isn't flawless, it's issues get overstated/blown out of proportion by some. Perhaps in the future this mode will live up to it's potential. But I doubt it, because I think the overall immaturity of the relatively small user base will always limit it (larger online fanbases like Halo or COD have the same issues but have a much larger pool online players imo). For now I just don't understand why this mode garners such venom from some. Then again it usually is the same guys complaining

cuz it's the most fun you can have with 2 thumbs and a tv!

[bears5122]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

People have been playing 5 on 5 basketball games with no lag for a decade? And here I was thinking NBA Live was the first to include it last year and it was a bit revolutionary. Silly me.

You know what I meant. There have been 8 on 8 or 10 on 10 games for almost a decade. EVERY game has figured out how to deal with slow connections. NBA Live has even figured it out in both NBA Live and FIFA.

I don't get why you are trying to make excuses. Why not just call them out for their incompetence in this area and hope they fix it for next year? Makes no sense why people are so loyal to a game that they won't point out a flaw in it.

[bears5122]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

The need to make ridiculous over the top statements because a person can't convey a view properly runs rampant here. "The [mode] doesn't work as well as I'd expect it to" doesn't have quite the bite that "they spit in the face of their loyal fan base this year with the 5-on-5" has. Someone would really have to explain to me why this mode garners such emotion, because I'm not a big online player. You'd think people were discussing online itself, but it's an individual mode that's being discussed. And it's a secondary online mode at that; I could see if this was head to head play. But there's no mention of the depth of the online leagues, of h2h play, of the other online gameplay modes which apparently run w/o major issues. But since this one isn't flawless, it's issues get overstated/blown out of proportion by some. Perhaps in the future this mode will live up to it's potential. But I doubt it, because I think the overall immaturity of the relatively small user base will always limit it (larger online fanbases like Halo or COD have the same issues but have a much larger pool online players imo). For now I just don't understand why this mode garners such venom from some. Then again it usually is the same guys complaining

It's a really fun mode, arguably the best one online at the moment. I understand people may not like it, but a lot do.

I think the venom comes because of the way they promoted it. It was hailed as a new feature. They clearly aren't competent to manage this feature. That's fine. Just come out and say we can't handle 5 on 5. Instead they gave everyone a runaround, lied about patches that would fix it, or how in a few days the servers would be fixed. It's also becoming a tradition with 2K to have huge online problems that never get fixed (MLB 2K).

So it's not so much about the feature, it's about how they treated a loyal fanbase. Everyone here knows 2K doesn't have the marketing budget of EA yet has been succesful in many of their games. This is in part to a loyal fanbase that has helped build a great word-of-mouth campaign for their games. They have blatantly lied to that base. That is why I'm angry. If they can't handle basic online functions, fine, just say it. But don't lie about it being fixed for months when they clearly aren't doing it.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by bears5122

I think the venom comes because of the way they promoted it. It was hailed as a new feature. They clearly aren't competent to manage this feature. That's fine. Just come out and say we can't handle 5 on 5. Instead they gave everyone a runaround, lied about patches that would fix it, or how in a few days the servers would be fixed. It's also becoming a tradition with 2K to have huge online problems that never get fixed (MLB 2K).

lol - the venom comes because of the way they promoted it...? As a new feature...?

From what I remember they didn't go out of their way to say it's going to perform better than any game before it, blah blah blah, or that it was going to revolutionize online basketball, etc. And again, the problem with your argument is you seemingly have to talk in extremes. It's not that "it doesn't work", or that "it's broken", because there are many in the thread saying they've had few problems playing in the mode. I'm sure there's some issues, but I don't get your need to go all soap-opera daytime emmy with the drama over something that's not even a major issue. They're liars? Because not fixing a problem to your satisfaction - which apparently seems to be flawless performance, because there are many that are saying they aren't having major issues using the mode.

Quote: Originally Posted by bears5122

If they can't handle basic online functions, fine, just say it. But don't lie about it being fixed for months when they clearly aren't doing it.

In your quickness in trying to be sensationalistic you totally disregard what they've done from an online leagues standpoint when you're making ridiculous comments like "being unable to handle basic online functions". Or that there appear to be no issues with basic head to head play. Or issues with other online modes.

Nevermind. This is a beyond silly argument you're trying to make.

[bears5122]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

In your quickness in trying to be sensationalistic you totally disregard what they've done from an online leagues standpoint when you're making ridiculous comments like "being unable to handle basic online functions". Or that there appear to be no issues with basic head to head play. Or issues with other online modes. Nevermind. This is a beyond silly argument you're trying to make.

I consider multi-player a basic online function. I guess I see any feature that was in games almost 10 years ago as basic.

And you're correct, arguing this is silly. Especially when one side needs to convince themselves that the game has no flaws to justify their purchase.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by bears5122

I consider multi-player a basic online function. I guess I see any feature that was in games almost 10 years ago as basic. And you're correct, arguing this is silly. Especially when one side needs to convince themselves that the game has no flaws to justify their purchase.

I said I wasn't going to reply back but have to say this: when did I say the game had no flaws? As stated earlier, you seem completely unable to make an argument for yourself unless you're painting everything in absolutes. Wasn't 5v5 basketball just introduced by Live last year? Here, I'll save you the trouble because I'm sure you'll fire back with some crazy comment like "Superstar Basketball '98 for the Commodore 64 did multiplayer" or some other over the top comment