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eldogg · 10-23-2008, 12:28 PM

don't worry lad.

i got a warning as well for expressing my opinion about this game.

only thing was he called me a troll for saying tiburon was lazy or something to that effect.

PaulZweber · 10-23-2008, 12:47 PM

Yep, I guess I didn't see the OS rule where critisism of EA or anyone affiliated is not allowed. There is no one from EA in this thread, and none of my posts were directed at anyone from that company.

TheTodd84 · 10-23-2008, 02:20 PM

Hey, Paul, no worries. I am totally on your side and completely agree with you. This is what happens when socialists take over and want to oppress your freedom of speech. If Paul wants to call EA a bunch of "lack of talent " nobodies, he is perfectly entitled to do that per the first amendment. Granted, they can still warn him, but oppressing that is pure socialism.

I hate to bring politics into this, but if OS wants to play politics, we sure can. I don't know Paul, but i agree with him, and it makes me sick to my stomach that this site would warn him because he criticized their beloved EA. What has happened to honesty and accountability in this country?

You are right Paul, EA does not care, and they have shown a lack of talent in recreating the game of football. How can anyone discredit that with their arcade-style gameplay, suction blocking, horrible animations, or anything else we have griped about? Anyone with a Video Game design degree can make a football game, but in order to understand realism and get the natural ebb and flow of true football, you need to be a top-notch designer who can create realistic animations and collision detection and also have PLAYED football or have a vast understanding of it. EA has clearly showed they have neither.

Why can they get this right for NHL 09 which is arguably the best hockey game ever made, but they can't get it right for Madden or NCAA? And Hockey is one of the most difficult games to recreate into a simulation, but EA managed to do it. That shows talent, but that is the Canadian team. Maybe EA should let them make a football game, cuz the American team? Well they sure as hell aren't getting the job done.

PaulZweber · 10-23-2008, 02:41 PM

I completely agree with you Todd. The reason I was warned is because a Madden Dev complained about my post. Apparently I offended him. Not really sure how, seeing that he wasn't in the thread, and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I find it funny that they are on the board "moderating" my opinions.

TheTodd84 · 10-23-2008, 03:14 PM

It's funny, but most of all sickening that they would moderate your opinions. I just can't believe that this would even be allowed in America. I can understand in Venezuela, with socialist Chavez running the joint. lol.

But we just want a good game, that plays like real football. I just don't understand why that is so much to ask.

PaulZweber · 10-23-2008, 03:53 PM

It isn't so much to ask, but it is too much to recieve. Yep, cencored on a public forum by a big company.

SoxFan01605 · 10-23-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZweber


	It isn't so much to ask, but it is too much to recieve. Yep, cencored on a public forum by a big company.

While I agree thatr many moderators are coming across as oversensative here lately, I think it's funny people keep mentioning constitutional rights and freedom, etc. This is not truly a public forum. It's a member driven one and there are TOS we agree to before we join. This means those rights don't apply. It's actually at the sites discretion whether or not we are allowed to participate and just how we do so. You may not like it, but you don't have to post here.

Again, I'm not speaking to the actual fairness of some of these warnings/infractions (human beings are prone to making rash decisions...even if the're moderators

). In fact, I've noticed a good amount of inconsistancy from the moderators on this particular forum. Maybe it's because the line between criticism and insults has become so blurred since some can't consuct themselves in a mature manner. I dunno. My comment was just about the falsehood that some people are alluding to that our rights somehow being violated. It's just not the case...from a literal standpoint, that is.

Lintyfresh85 · 10-23-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asu666


	I believe Madden Nation to be the high point of everything that is wrong with ~~Madden football~~ America

Fixed.

10-23-2008, 12:28 PM	#81
eldogg Banned OVR: 4 Join Date: Sep 2003	Re: The Abomination That is Madden Nation don't worry lad. i got a warning as well for expressing my opinion about this game. only thing was he called me a troll for saying tiburon was lazy or something to that effect. Last edited by eldogg; 10-23-2008 at 12:30 PM.

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10-23-2008, 12:47 PM	#82
PaulZweber Rookie OVR: 16 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stanwood, WA Blog Entries: 6	Yep, I guess I didn't see the OS rule where critisism of EA or anyone affiliated is not allowed. There is no one from EA in this thread, and none of my posts were directed at anyone from that company.

10-23-2008, 02:20 PM	#83
TheTodd84 Rookie OVR: 12 Join Date: Oct 2008 Blog Entries: 2	Hey, Paul, no worries. I am totally on your side and completely agree with you. This is what happens when socialists take over and want to oppress your freedom of speech. If Paul wants to call EA a bunch of "lack of talent " nobodies, he is perfectly entitled to do that per the first amendment. Granted, they can still warn him, but oppressing that is pure socialism. I hate to bring politics into this, but if OS wants to play politics, we sure can. I don't know Paul, but i agree with him, and it makes me sick to my stomach that this site would warn him because he criticized their beloved EA. What has happened to honesty and accountability in this country? You are right Paul, EA does not care, and they have shown a lack of talent in recreating the game of football. How can anyone discredit that with their arcade-style gameplay, suction blocking, horrible animations, or anything else we have griped about? Anyone with a Video Game design degree can make a football game, but in order to understand realism and get the natural ebb and flow of true football, you need to be a top-notch designer who can create realistic animations and collision detection and also have PLAYED football or have a vast understanding of it. EA has clearly showed they have neither. Why can they get this right for NHL 09 which is arguably the best hockey game ever made, but they can't get it right for Madden or NCAA? And Hockey is one of the most difficult games to recreate into a simulation, but EA managed to do it. That shows talent, but that is the Canadian team. Maybe EA should let them make a football game, cuz the American team? Well they sure as hell aren't getting the job done.

10-23-2008, 02:41 PM	#84
PaulZweber Rookie OVR: 16 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stanwood, WA Blog Entries: 6	I completely agree with you Todd. The reason I was warned is because a Madden Dev complained about my post. Apparently I offended him. Not really sure how, seeing that he wasn't in the thread, and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I find it funny that they are on the board "moderating" my opinions.

10-23-2008, 03:14 PM	#85
TheTodd84 Rookie OVR: 12 Join Date: Oct 2008 Blog Entries: 2	It's funny, but most of all sickening that they would moderate your opinions. I just can't believe that this would even be allowed in America. I can understand in Venezuela, with socialist Chavez running the joint. lol. But we just want a good game, that plays like real football. I just don't understand why that is so much to ask.

10-23-2008, 03:53 PM	#86
PaulZweber Rookie OVR: 16 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stanwood, WA Blog Entries: 6	It isn't so much to ask, but it is too much to recieve. Yep, cencored on a public forum by a big company.

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