NCAA Football 09 Patch #1 Available

[Hokie200proof]

Quote: Originally Posted by kestrel

FYI, the current generation of consoles is the 7th generation of video game consoles.

Wow, thanks for that. That completely refutes everything I had to say.

For anyone else who isn't a literalist I think you can see my point.

[OMT]

Quote: Originally Posted by cornstarch

Well I'm new here, so you can't skip over this name, right? So, can you answer me a SIMPLE question? How do you guys put this game out? I've been playing NCAA since 2003. I took a one year break because I didn't have a next gen system and I figured it'd be a couple years before the game would be back to it's old form. But, I get the game this year...and for the first time I actually CANNOT play it. From the days of the ps2, I've NEVER had to put the game down and just not play it because I'm waiting for patches to fix the game. Not to sound like your typical angry fan, but I didn't complain, I just waited, and then you give the fans a truly broken game. How is it that you guys over there didn't notice the simple things that make football, football, and not fix them? No pass rush. QBs completing everything. Speed system VERY flawed. A TD on about every 5 returns. People on defense not playing their zones, not sticking with their men at all. And of course, there's more - but those are the absolute gamekillers. Honestly, can you just answer the question? Not trying to complain and complain, I just really want the answer to how you guys put this game out without catching all of this which would have taken literally 3 days to find - if that. OMT, please, why do you guys do that?

The stuff you point out aren't on or off things. They aren't oversights but a subjective judgement. They are things that were being tuned throughout the cycle. It had nothing to do with us not noticing. It is out of my area of design so I can't justify as I don't know how close or far off of what they were trying to deliver it is. I really don't. I'm not totally happy with the gameplay, but I enjoy this game more than the previous two on this console generation by leaps and bounds.

I'm sorry you can't play the game. Very few people just can't play it, some people aren't happy with it, but most people like it. We get more feedback saying it is the best version of NCAA they have every played than we do about about people not liking it or worse.

Of course, as someone who doesn't like it, I'm sure that is hard for you to believe. But it is the truth. We have a wide audience of people to cater to, not just hardcore sports gamers.

[Vaspirate]

My biggest frustration with the game is little attention is given to none BSC schools. I'm not a expert but I would think it would be easy to assign a few guys a conference have them mull over pictures of the stadium(where opponents sit, what are the dominate colors, entrances ETC.), review team rosters(RACE OF PLAYER, skills of players), incoming freshmen(Do you have a code where you could say 4.36=91speed and 93 Acc bench of 345=89str ETC).

I'm and ECU alum so I follow them but it looks like no time is spent on the non BCS schools. ECU held VT to 33yds rushing and 278 total lost 17-7 last year yet only have a Def rating of 76 yet return 9 starters overall rating 72. Also beat Boise State 77 overall and UCF 77. ECU returning more starters than both and still significantly lower.

[kestrel]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hokie200proof

Wow, thanks for that. That completely refutes everything I had to say. For anyone else who isn't a literalist I think you can see my point.

FYI, I wasn't trying to refute anything. I was trying to be informative; hence, the FYI to begin my reply to your post (and this one)

But, like just about everyone, you can't take a little correction and information but have to take offense at it.

[Benicio10]

Quote: Originally Posted by OMT

I'm sorry you can't play the game. Very few people just can't play it, some people aren't happy with it, but most people like it. We get more feedback saying it is the best version of NCAA they have every played than we do about about people not liking it or worse. Of course, as someone who doesn't like it, I'm sure that is hard for you to believe. But it is the truth. We have a wide audience of people to cater to, not just hardcore sports gamers.

This is the fundamental reason why we are all doomed as sim sports gamers. We will never be happy with the game because developers will INTENTIONALLY put fake things in their game to please people who want to throw 20 TDs a game.

Thanks, OMT. I am officially done with NCAA forever. Time to move on to Madden and hope Ian and company get it right in 2010.

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Benicio10

This is the fundamental reason why we are all doomed as sim sports gamers. We will never be happy with the game because developers will INTENTIONALLY put fake things in their game to please people who want to throw 20 TDs a game. Thanks, OMT. I am officially done with NCAA forever. Time to move on to Madden and hope Ian and company get it right in 2010.

Why do you assume that all the hardcore people don't like this game? That's not true either. I also don't think there is as big a difference from what the casual gamer wants vs. what the hardcore gamer wants or expects other than degree of difficulty. I think that's one of the most overblown things on message boards out there. I get tired of hearing what the elitist snob known as the sim gamer wants as though he's so different and better than anyone else. Everyone wants the game to be a realistic representation of football. The casual gamer that wants to throw 20 TDs just needs to drop the difficultly level which is why default is Varsity.

[cornstarch]

Quote: Originally Posted by OMT

No it isn't. We take the complaints seriously. That's how we learn and grow as a development team. Every year we criticize ourselves and take steps to improve that, but it isn't nearly as objective as customer feedback. The only pointless stuff is the complaints that aren't posted.. ummm.. gracefully. At some point you just stop reading them. I've gotten good at checking the name on the post before reading it.

Quote: Originally Posted by OMT

The stuff you point out aren't on or off things. They aren't oversights but a subjective judgement. They are things that were being tuned throughout the cycle. It had nothing to do with us not noticing. It is out of my area of design so I can't justify as I don't know how close or far off of what they were trying to deliver it is. I really don't. I'm not totally happy with the gameplay, but I enjoy this game more than the previous two on this console generation by leaps and bounds. I'm sorry you can't play the game. Very few people just can't play it, some people aren't happy with it, but most people like it. We get more feedback saying it is the best version of NCAA they have every played than we do about about people not liking it or worse. Of course, as someone who doesn't like it, I'm sure that is hard for you to believe. But it is the truth. We have a wide audience of people to cater to, not just hardcore sports gamers.

Thanks for responding, quickly at that.

Anyway, I mean I know it is judgment and the guys that are making the game set out for it to be wide open and all this, but even you can't deny the fact that it isn't true to NCAA football, or any football for that matter.

Like Benicio pointed out, and this is the EXACT same for Madden (even worse there), why try to cater to 6 year old kids who probably don't know the difference between FCS and BCS? Why not cater solely on the hardcore NCAA, Madden fans that will continue to buy your product year in and year out? It's what most companies try to do, save for the elite ones, gaining more customers rather than keeping the loyal ones happy. I'm sure you can make it true to life, sim football while still making it open to newcomers and such.

Don't you think that after years and years of buying the game, that the hardcore fans are the ones who should get something in return by making the gameplay realistic, adding more customization, more depth, more realism to everything rather than some gimmicks to attract 5th graders?

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by OMT

Yeah, there is a chance. Just waiting on that email. Ya know what.. I'll even make a promise. I PROMISE you that there is a chance that it might possibility be released today. Maybe.