Madden NFL 09 Videos: IGN

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

For all the 2K5 diehards, stop the complaining, fire up your old XBOX and download the rosters in the 2K5 forum. Go play until you fall dizzy. But stop brining up that nonsense. It was the greatest football videogame I ever played, but it wasn't perfect. Just as you accepted 2K5's faults (and I won't mention them), either keep playing it now or accept Madden for what it will be. It's your choice and your money. This stupid conversation takes place every year. The only reason it's so strong right now is because it SEEMS as if Madden might finally be turning the corner. But I don't think their current goal is to re-create 2K5. Hell, the pre-beta Madden looks better than 2K5 in SOME respects. But there's just way too much focus on "what 2K5 did". And some of the requests that I have been reading are just way too nitpicky.

Quote: Originally Posted by Rawdeal28

ummmm....I don't know if you guys noticed his post or not, but Ian asked the 2k fans to mention what made the 2k series so special to them, in hopes of not only being able to put these things into the Madden series, but to also improve upon them.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

ummmm....I don't know if you guys noticed his post or not, but Ian asked the 2k fans to mention what made the 2k series so special to them, in hopes of not only being able to put these things into the Madden series, but to also improve upon them.

True, but we need to bring constructive criticism to the discussion. I love 2k5 and I love 2k8 even more but we have a chance to have our voice heard in Madden. We just have to show OS class and everything will be ok.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

For all the 2K5 diehards, stop the complaining, fire up your old XBOX and download the rosters in the 2K5 forum. Go play until you fall dizzy. But stop brining up that nonsense. It was the greatest football videogame I ever played, but it wasn't perfect. Just as you accepted 2K5's faults (and I won't mention them), either keep playing it now or accept Madden for what it will be. It's your choice and your money. This stupid conversation takes place every year. The only reason it's so strong right now is because it SEEMS as if Madden might finally be turning the corner. But I don't think their current goal is to re-create 2K5. Hell, the pre-beta Madden looks better than 2K5 in SOME respects. But there's just way too much focus on "what 2K5 did". And some of the requests that I have been reading are just way too nitpicky.

The conversations on 2k5 has been very mature and productive. Ian seem very open minded regarding the strengths of the 2k series.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

True, but we need to bring constructive criticism to the discussion. I love 2k5 and I love 2k8 even more but we have a chance to have our voice heard in Madden. We just have to show OS class and everything will be ok.

thats what I am saying.

These guys are upset because 2k is being mentioned in the Madden forum and being talked about what it did right. What I was telling them is that Ian asked for people to do that. Look at what happened when gang tackling was compared between the 2. EA has been able to take gang tackling to another level and thats because they are trying to equal what 2k has.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

thats what I am saying. These guys are upset because 2k is being mentioned in the Madden forum and being talked about what it did right. What I was telling them is that Ian asked for people to do that. Look at what happened when gang tackling was compared between the 2. EA has been able to take gang tackling to another level and thats because they are trying to equal what 2k has.

Exactly. As long as 2k5 and APF are being brought up to contribute to Madden advancing, it's good conversation. It's when people come in with hallow comments about how Madden will never be 2k5 or APF, that's when the problems start. Madden needs to borrow all the good from the 2k football series and none of the bad. Honestly that's all I've ever wanted.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageTheInfinite

Exactly. As long as 2k5 and APF are being brought up to contribute to Madden advancing, it's good conversation. It's when people come in with hallow comments about how Madden will never be 2k5 or APF, that's when the problems start. Madden needs to borrow all the good from the 2k football series and none of the bad. Honestly that's all I've ever wanted.

agreed.

[TeeDogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rawdeal28

most of them are complaining and generally leave no details what so ever. its generally "madden gang tackling will never touch 2k5". "the ball does a 180 turn before it goes into a WR hands". if it were constructive we wouldnt be saying anything about it.

im seeing some of the most constructive post comparing 2k to EA that ive ever seen here. you will always have a few pop in with crap, but last year everyone of these threads would be 80% flames by now, unless im missing something im seeing 80% constructive interactions with Ian. you must be reading a diffrent board if you think MOST have not been constructive with Ian.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeeDogg

im seeing some of the most constructive post comparing 2k to EA that ive ever seen here. you will always have a few pop in with crap, but last year everyone of these threads would be 80% flames by now, unless im missing something im seeing 80% constructive interactions with Ian. you must be reading a diffrent board if you think MOST have not been constructive with Ian.

agreed.

Its been mostly civil discussions this time around, especially since Ian joined the forum.