NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mintsa

Well. They're having a meeting today (supposedly) so will see what comes of it later on this afternoon.....most likely the same old stuff. - Can't agree on the same major points - Both sides don't want to miss games - Both sides need a deal that "makes sense" for them - blah, blah, blah, blah, Then they will probably agree to go back and meet in smaller groups like a few weeks ago (if that's not what is happening today ?)

Dont expect anything to happen today. The lawyers are meeting today and Stern and Hunter wont be there. Tomorrow is the big day. The small groups will be meeting again.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dice

I think it's going to get done. Negotiations like these always get settled at the last minute. So let's not be surprised OR claim gloom and doom if nothing comes out of it. Right now, both sides are just fishing more more concessions. I'm believing that both sides have a basic deal in place and their just trying to get a little more. As most who reported on these meetings, I do think it's just posturing. Until Stern OFFICIALLY announces cancelled games, then I'm not going to believe that things are turning for the worst. I don't care what these owners and players are feeding the press. BUT at the same time, until Stern announces that them and the players MUTUALLY agree on a CBA, then I'm not going to get too excited.

I think the two side are too far apart on fundamental things for a last min save. A hard cap would significantly reduce player negotiating power evening signing contracts. There's no way they give without a huge fight. Huge fight equal lost games.

[RedSceptile]

Alright so take this with a grain of salt but I was reading an insider article and this portion stood out to me (not posting the entire article is this cool?) This was stated by a western conference executive by the way just a portion of what he said.

Quote:

” Most of the teams that are in the lottery are the ones that are also going to be responsible for us losing the season.The most poorly run franchises are the ones that need the hard cap. They're the same ones that need revenue sharing. Should we just give them extra draft picks, too?"

Seems like this front isn't as united as Stern wants everyone to believe, this sentiment is probably shared by a lot of other executives/team owners.

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedSceptile

Alright so take this with a grain of salt but I was reading an insider article and this portion stood out to me (not posting three entire article obviously) Seems like this front isn't as united as Stern wants everyone to believe, this sentiment is probably shared by a lot of other executives/team owners.

14 Lotto teams, 16 Playoff teams.

Just saying, if that was the problem, then the playoff teams would win.

[RedSceptile]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

14 Lotto teams, 16 Playoff teams. Just saying, if that was the problem, then the playoff teams would win.

Not that easy there are a lot of playoff teams that have owners who are pretty set like the Celtics, Grizzlies, possibly the Hawks new owner/management and so on. It's a tricky subject because owners seem to sway this way one day then that way the next.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I think the two side are too far apart on fundamental things for a last min save. A hard cap would significantly reduce player negotiating power evening signing contracts. There's no way they give without a huge fight. Huge fight equal lost games.

I dont think there will be a hard cap. I think the hard cap is just a negotiating ploy by the owners. I have a feeling that we will end up with the flex cap that the owners offered back in June.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I dont think there will be a hard cap. I think the hard cap is just a negotiating ploy by the owners. I have a feeling that we will end up with the flex cap that the owners offered back in June.

I have said all along there is no way we see a hard cap. Player and big market owners don't want it. The compromise will mostly likely be a more solid cap and higher luxury taxes.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I have said all along there is no way we see a hard cap. Player and big market owners don't want it. The compromise will mostly likely be a more solid cap and higher luxury taxes.

I agree and if thats the case, I think the deal can be done in the next few weeks.