Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

[PrettyT11]

Quote: Originally Posted by capp34

How many players are better than Melo in the NBA? Some of you guys are talking like he not a franchise changer.

No one is saying the dude isn't an all star or one of the best scorers in the game. But he is not a franchise changer. He is not the kind of player you blow your team up for to get. Like others have said for all his scoring and what not he has only been out of the first round once in seven years.

[capp34]

Quote: Originally Posted by PrettyT11

No one is saying the dude isn't an all star or one of the best scorers in the game. But he is not a franchise changer. He is not the kind of player you blow your team up for to get. Like others have said for all his scoring and what not he has only been out of the first round once in seven years.

Its not his fault he played in a stacked Western Conference, no other superstar in the league would do anything with that roster in the west.

[elprez98]

Quote: Originally Posted by capp34

Its not his fault he played in a stacked Western Conference, no other superstar in the league would do anything with that roster in the west.

Really? You don't think Lebron or Wade on Denver goes to the finals? Hell, if it weren't for a couple of bone-headed plays against the Lakers they really should have made it out the year before last. But the reason they got out of the 1st round was greatly due to Billups coming in and playing defense and holding Melo and the others accountable to playing defense.

[PrettyT11]

Quote: Originally Posted by capp34

Its not his fault he played in a stacked Western Conference, no other superstar in the league would do anything with that roster in the west.

That's an excuse and one that's starting to get old at that. Being in the West never stopped other all stars from doing it more than once. Plus it's not like his teams was suffering close first round losses. They have been dominated in the playoffs. Other than the one season his teams playoffs record is 6-24.

Let's not act like his roster has been complete trash now. He has always had at least one other player who has been an all star on his team. He and Iverson was the highest scoring tandem in the league while he was there and they also had an NBA defensive player of the year in Camby. Then after Iverson he has had a finals MVP PG in Billups. Sounds like a pretty good roster to me. You say other guys wouldn't have wom more with that roster I completely disagree. James, Kobe, Wade, and Duncan off the top of my head all would have won more with that roster. James has taken a far weaker team than any of those Nuggets teams to the finals. Duncan has won a championship with a lot less talented roster than Melo has ever had.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote:

James has taken a far weaker team than any of those Nuggets teams to the finals. Duncan has won a championship with a lot less talented roster than Melo has ever had.

1. In a far weaker Conference at the time as well.

2. A lot less though? Ehhh I don't know about "a lot less" talented roster...

[PrettyT11]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

1. In a far weaker Conference at the time as well. 2. A lot less though? Ehhh I don't know about "a lot less" talented roster...

1.It was in the east but they beat a championship team to get there. One that was the heavy favorite at that. You have to give some credit for that. That proved that LeBron could take a lesser team to greater heights.

2. Yes it was a far less talented team in 03 that won it all. We are talking about a second year Tony Parker, a rookie Manu, a 37 year old and part time David Robinson to go along with Malik Rose and a second year completely unknown Stephen Jackson. That team had zero offensive fire power and Duncan carried them all the way to the title. That isn't anywhere near the talent level of the Melo, Iverson, Camby, and crew Nuggets or last years team for that matter.

[ProfessaPackMan]

1. It was impressive. But the way you made it sound(or at least phrased it)you made it seem like 'Oh since Lebron did it with no problem in the East, Carmelo should('ve)done it in the tougher West as well. That's the only reason why I took issue with that.

2. I guess we have different definitions of " a lot less" because when I think of that, I think of J. Kidd had took to the Finals in back to back years. Not THAT would be considered " a lot less" to me at least.

[PrettyT11]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

1. It was impressive. But the way you made it sound(or at least phrased it)you made it seem like 'Oh since Lebron did it with no problem in the East, Carmelo should('ve)done it in the tougher West as well. That's the only reason why I took issue with that. 2. I guess we have different definitions of " a lot less" because when I think of that, I think of J. Kidd had took to the Finals in back to back years. Not THAT would be considered " a lot less" to me at least.

1. Oh naw it wasn't ment like that. The only reason why I brought LeBron and them up is because the other guy said nobody else in the NBA could have/can win more in Denver than Melo has/can.

2. Oh no doubt Kidd's squad he took to the finals meets the grade as well no question. I was going to add him to the list as well but he isn't the same guy now that he was then. If we was talking about a prime Kidd no doubt. Also cause his teams was in the east as well. Last thing about that Spurs team though. Not saying you are but alot of guys might/do see the names Parker and Manu and see them as the all stars they are now and not the unproven and not nearly as good players that they were then. That team was Timmy, and old and part time Robinson, and a bunch of either old or unknown guys.