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CMH · 11-15-2011, 08:09 PM

Sources are indicating that a deal is near. It should include a few things mentioned over the past months here in the baseball forum:

-Realignment of the sport into two 15-team leagues
-Adding a second wild-card team in each league
-Spreading interleague play throughout all six months of the regular season
-Changes to the draft, free agency

It seems that a salary slotting system for draft picks and compensation for losing a top player through free agency were the major holdups that both sides are nearing an agreement on.

There's a strong chance that the Type-A, Type-B free agent system that currently determines whether a team loses a first round or second round pick will be gone as the two sides will find a way to separate the true stars of the game from other free agents.

Most importantly is how smoothly these negotiations are going considering the recent NFL and current NBA labor disputes and MLB's past.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/72...al-sources-say

TheMatrix31 · 11-15-2011, 08:14 PM

Well, I hate the interleague play thing and I especially hate adding playoff teams....but whatever.

SPTO · 11-15-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CMH


	There's a strong chance that the Type-A, Type-B free agent system that currently determines whether a team loses a first round or second round pick will be gone as the two sides will find a way to separate the true stars of the game from other free agents.

Glad to see a deal is close to getting done even if means interleague all year long and adding another playoff team.

This part quoted above is pretty interesting and will have huge implications for the Blue Jays to force their hand to be more aggressive in free agency rather than stockpiling on draft picks.

CabreraMVP · 11-15-2011, 08:26 PM

Type A free agents is messed up, glad it's changed.

Kelly Johnson is Type A free agent. Nobody wants to sign this guy even though he's a solid player.

The Tigers gave up first round picks both of the past 2 years to sign Victor Martinez and Valverde who are bonafide all stars and some of the best at their positions.......And then have to cough up a first rounder for Kelly Johnson? How does that work.

The Tigers might have offered Johnson a contract if it wasn't for that contract. I heard Ramon Hernandez is a type A free agent too? He's a good player but who wants to give up a first rounder for a 30 something catcher

CMH · 11-15-2011, 08:39 PM

It's a bad system that needed to be destroyed. Glad that both sides understand that.

Probably not too hard for them to agree on that considering it hurts both sides. Like you said, no one wants to lose a draft pick for a non-star and the player is basically outcast because he can't sign a contract.

I think the league is at that point where AL and NL don't really matter besides tradition and a single rule. It won't look pretty but the leagues haven't been separate for a long time now. No sense in creating this divide in the schedule that is merely traditional rather than functional.

Sent from my mobile device.

Blzer · 11-15-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CMH


	I think the league is at that point where AL and NL don't really matter besides tradition and a single rule. It won't look pretty but the leagues haven't been separate for a long time now. No sense in creating this divide in the schedule that is merely traditional rather than functional.

That single rule is annoying to AL teams when they play in NL parks. They sign a strong DH and 1B quite often, and need to figure out how they can optimize in other parks. It lowers the value of the DH significantly. Of course, this happens during interleague play anyway, so it might not be that different, unless...

Does this completely eliminate the interleague period of the season, then? In other words, do they still keep the games where everybody plays each other in the other league at the same time, or does this new "spread" completely remove that period?

mvb34 · 11-15-2011, 09:59 PM

[quote=Blzer;2043089539]That single rule is annoying to AL teams when they play in NL parks. They sign a strong DH and 1B quite often, and need to figure out how they can optimize in other parks. It lowers the value of the DH significantly. Of course, this happens during interleague play anyway, so it might not be that different, unless...

Does this completely eliminate the interleague period of the season, then? In other words, do they still keep the games where everybody plays each other in the other league at the same time, or does this new "spread" completely remove that period?[/quote]

I believe it will be spreaded out because each league will have 15 teams and there always be an interleague series..

BatsareBugs · 11-15-2011, 10:00 PM

Padres to AL West, someone from the NL Central to the NL West, please.

11-15-2011, 08:09 PM	#1
CMH Making you famous OVR: 46 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 26,235 Blog Entries: 1	MLB Labor Deal Sources are indicating that a deal is near. It should include a few things mentioned over the past months here in the baseball forum: -Realignment of the sport into two 15-team leagues -Adding a second wild-card team in each league -Spreading interleague play throughout all six months of the regular season -Changes to the draft, free agency It seems that a salary slotting system for draft picks and compensation for losing a top player through free agency were the major holdups that both sides are nearing an agreement on. There's a strong chance that the Type-A, Type-B free agent system that currently determines whether a team loses a first round or second round pick will be gone as the two sides will find a way to separate the true stars of the game from other free agents. Most importantly is how smoothly these negotiations are going considering the recent NFL and current NBA labor disputes and MLB's past. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/72...al-sources-say __________________ "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

11-15-2011, 08:14 PM	#2
TheMatrix31 RF OVR: 36 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 52,659	Re: MLB Labor Deal Well, I hate the interleague play thing and I especially hate adding playoff teams....but whatever. Mjphillips, 1Rose, Majoniak and 3 others like this.

11-15-2011, 08:26 PM	#4
CabreraMVP MVP OVR: 3 Join Date: Sep 2010	Re: MLB Labor Deal Type A free agents is messed up, glad it's changed. Kelly Johnson is Type A free agent. Nobody wants to sign this guy even though he's a solid player. The Tigers gave up first round picks both of the past 2 years to sign Victor Martinez and Valverde who are bonafide all stars and some of the best at their positions.......And then have to cough up a first rounder for Kelly Johnson? How does that work. The Tigers might have offered Johnson a contract if it wasn't for that contract. I heard Ramon Hernandez is a type A free agent too? He's a good player but who wants to give up a first rounder for a 30 something catcher __________________ JayElectronicaBluElzhi2PacTheNotoriousB.I.G.ReksSc arfaceFashawnJeruThaDamaja

11-15-2011, 08:39 PM	#5
CMH Making you famous OVR: 46 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 26,235 Blog Entries: 1	It's a bad system that needed to be destroyed. Glad that both sides understand that. Probably not too hard for them to agree on that considering it hurts both sides. Like you said, no one wants to lose a draft pick for a non-star and the player is basically outcast because he can't sign a contract. I think the league is at that point where AL and NL don't really matter besides tradition and a single rule. It won't look pretty but the leagues haven't been separate for a long time now. No sense in creating this divide in the schedule that is merely traditional rather than functional. Sent from my mobile device. __________________ "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

11-15-2011, 09:59 PM	#7
mvb34 S*cd* P*l C-Chmpn OVR: 40* Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Washington DC Blog Entries: 1	Re: MLB Labor Deal [quote=Blzer;2043089539]That single rule is annoying to AL teams when they play in NL parks. They sign a strong DH and 1B quite often, and need to figure out how they can optimize in other parks. It lowers the value of the DH significantly. Of course, this happens during interleague play anyway, so it might not be that different, unless... Does this completely eliminate the interleague period of the season, then? In other words, do they still keep the games where everybody plays each other in the other league at the same time, or does this new "spread" completely remove that period?[/quote] I believe it will be spreaded out because each league will have 15 teams and there always be an interleague series..

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11-15-2011, 10:00 PM	#8
BatsareBugs LVP OVR: 39 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,558 Blog Entries: 24	Re: MLB Labor Deal Padres to AL West, someone from the NL Central to the NL West, please.

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