Backbreaker Screenshots: 11 vs. 11 Confirmed

[mvb34]

Whats up with the guys that are highlighted?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

It obvious that the continued resentment over Exclusivity is the reason why this game is not being scrutinized by many posters with the same discerning eye that they use for most other games. Some will say that they're just excited about the art direction and the physics engine of course, but that's just a part of the equation. If 2K hadn't have been turned into a Martyred game, then essentially everyone here would be looking at this game with much more skepticism instead of touting it as The Savior of Football Gaming.

Absolutely 100% on the mark.

[Afrikan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hellisan

Can't say it any better than that, jfsolo.

what I want to know is, are some not giving this game the benefit of the doubt (until more info is released) on simple stuff like the player models or the glowing player or whatever because they feel others are hyping this game as the best eva.... I mean I see more people excited about this game just because it is a different option to Madden...what is wrong with that....

again I understand if someone claims this game "OWNS Madden!!!111" or what ever....yeah there is something definitely wrong with that statement.... but like I said, I see more people posting about how they are looking forward to the game.

So I ask...where is this hate coming from? Can someone point me to posters who have claimed this is the end all be all of football games..... or are posters in here using a fake excuse for trolling the game.....

IMO, I am not expecting this game to be the greatest thing ever... I just hope they get the "Football" aspect of the game down first and foremost...and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt because this IS their first football game... I can't expect them to have Franchise, Online, ALL the rules, Players & Coaches on the sideline, Refs on the field, hell even commentary...... Football is hard to recreate...it takes trial and error....

All I would want is Online, All the football rules, lots of control features (ex Hot routes, blocking assignments)....and the most important TOTAL Customization, not that sh1t 2k gave us with APF.

I don't mind if Refs don't make it in.... I'd like sideline players, but we'll see.

For every Madden 2003/4, NFL 2k5, Gameday 98....there are many Fox Sports NFL football, Gameday 2002, ESPN NFL Football (pre-VC), and much more horrible games......

they are taking a big chance ($) developing a football game, especially without the NFL license.... I think we should be supportive as well as add constructive criticism when need be.

[TreyIM2]

Like I said on the BB forum on the BB site, earlier - Those shots are nothing special, at all. People start losing their minds over those super wide angled shots of nothing. Now, I am looking forward to what this game has to offer but the level of Ritalin needed responses to these two rather weak shots of an unproven game is a bit, uhh, weak. I need much more to go on, personally.

[ak1knight]

Quote: Originally Posted by Afrikan

what I want to know is, are some not giving this game the benefit of the doubt (until more info is released) on simple stuff like the player models or the glowing player or whatever because they feel others are hyping this game as the best eva.... I mean I see more people excited about this game just because it is a different option to Madden...what is wrong with that.... again I understand if someone claims this game "OWNS Madden!!!111" or what ever....yeah there is something definitely wrong with that statement.... but like I said, I see more people posting about how they are looking forward to the game. So I ask...where is this hate coming from? Can someone point me to posters who have claimed this is the end all be all of football games..... or are posters in here using a fake excuse for trolling the game.....

Go into any Madden thread and you'll get at least one EA bashing post where they bash for really small things (OMG THE SOX R TEH RONG COLER!!!!!112) Then when some people see that people are praising (yes there are a couple people that praise it religiously) a game that we know little about they get a little irked and go bashing the little things just like the EA haters do.

11v11? Good!

Not a single soul on the sidelines? No referees? Every single player in the EXACT same stance? Not good.

This game still has a loooooooooong way to go.

[Afrikan]

Quote: Originally Posted by ak1knight

Go into any Madden thread and you'll get at least one EA bashing post where they bash for really small things (OMG THE SOX R TEH RONG COLER!!!!!112) Then when some people see that people are praising (yes there are a couple people that praise it religiously) a game that we know little about they get a little irked and go bashing the little things just like the EA haters do.

I don't condole trolling.....but there are people who troll...then there are people who are fed up.

If you are the sole holder of the NFL License, you will be held to a higher standard. If you are a company like EA who has made football games for over 20 years, you will be held to a higher standard.

This is NM first football game, I don't know what some were expecting....or what they seem the Devs have promised...

Is there anything wrong with this reasoning or is this a contradiction?

[adembroski]

Quote: Originally Posted by jdr4693

Maybe for now, but I expect Backbreaker to be a "Madden killer" in acouple of years and acouple of installments later i.e. Backbreaker 2012.

I disagree. I don't think BB has any intention of being a Madden killer. I think they're very much into the friendly rivalry, but I think BB is looking to go a different direction.

They're going two very different direction. Ian's vision is total sim... a tactical game, in the long run, emulating the NFL as close as possible. Where as BB is going for, as I said before, a more visceral, emotional, on-field experience. Tactics will take a back seat to emotion.

There's nothing wrong with that and I'm not trying to insult BB. I'm really interested in playing this game. But they're not direct competitors the way NFL 2k5 and Madden 05 were. It's more like APF vs. Blitz... not that BB = Blitz, it's a very different approach, I'm only making a loose comparison.