NHL 2K10 Patch Mention

[savoie2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

People have explained the difference to you between both teams approaches more than once, and given valid reasons why they feel the way they do towards 2k's efforts the last couple cycles, yet you continue this nieve stance on it, and toss out the "EA Fanboy" card anytime someone mentions something you don't have a valid arguement for. Defending an overall major lack of improvement since coming to next gen hasn't helped squat. Hell even Venom is starting to see that. 2k needs to actually DO what they say the're going to do. When WWTC makes a comment like putting the defensive awareness slider on 100 will make the cpu AI pressure you in the neutral zone pre release, then the game comes out and we find that the def AI is an absolute mess and that statement isn't anywhere near true, not to mention the game is already out that means not much info til 2 weeks before 2k11 hits. Well yeah I think people have a right to be a little teed off about it. It's great that Shadow is at least attempting some communication though, even if its not the detailed info we'd like to see.

I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by savoie2006

I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

Really? Its fine that AI defensmen just back their way to the net then more often than not, then usually part like the Red Sea? Fine that they far more often than they should, aimlessly skate away from the play? Really? Thats "fine" to you? Wow I always though you were easy to impress Savoie but seriously. I guess the goalies doing head first diving poke checks 20 times a game is "fine" too.

[savoie2006]

Quote:

Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive

Apparently you missed the part. The goalie head first dive is annoying, but can be controlled somewhat, by lowering the rebound slider. So you sacrafice one part of unrealistic play for another, but at least it gives up fewer easy goals for the Cpu. Complain all you want about 2K's lack of D intelligence, but don't forget, EA's game has its share of unresponsive teammates as well and I don't see you griping so loud about that on the EA forums. I know though, you just like to argue, but we'll just have to disagree.

[Scottdau]

Quote: Originally Posted by daflyboys

No such thing. You just disagree.

I love you too! XXOO

[Scottdau]

Quote: Originally Posted by savoie2006

Apparently you missed the part. The goalie head first dive is annoying, but can be controlled somewhat, by lowering the rebound slider. So you sacrafice one part of unrealistic play for another, but at least it gives up fewer easy goals for the Cpu. Complain all you want about 2K's lack of D intelligence, but don't forget, EA's game has its share of unresponsive teammates as well and I don't see you griping so loud about that on the EA forums. I know though, you just like to argue, but we'll just have to disagree.

I wouldn't even brother with him. Good points about the D, some times they make you scratch your head and some times they make you smile. It is not all the time that is why I think they might be able to patch it, so their are more smiles!

[phillyfan23]

Quote: Originally Posted by savoie2006

I think the Defensive AI is fine. Yeah the defensemen could be a bit more aggressive, but overall the AI on both sides of the Ice is fine for me. Definately not any worse than EA's. Cups has been chirping in, just not here.

no way it is fine. The cpu d-men in NHL 10 is fine. Not great, but they don't make fundamental flaws like the d-men in 2k do.

What;s weird is that MOST of the times the 2k d-men play great, and realistically aggressive ( better than EA's) but 20 percent of the time, they play like pee-wee hockey d-men.

EA plays consistently decent...never awesome, but for the most part does its job. 2k's d-men errors just kill the game. Check out venom's thread of the d-men flaws at 2khockey forums.

IF and it's a big if, the patch fixes this in 2k10, the d-men play WILL be better than EA's......

if not then the game is unplayable for me.

[savoie2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by phillyfan23

no way it is fine. The cpu d-men in NHL 10 is fine. Not great, but they don't make fundamental flaws like the d-men in 2k do. What;s weird is that MOST of the times the 2k d-men play great, and realistically aggressive ( better than EA's) but 20 percent of the time, they play like pee-wee hockey d-men. EA plays consistently decent...never awesome, but for the most part does its job. 2k's d-men errors just kill the game. Check out venom's thread of the d-men flaws at 2khockey forums. IF and it's a big if, the patch fixes this in 2k10, the d-men play WILL be better than EA's...... if not then the game is unplayable for me.

I've read it. I didn't say they were perfect, I said that the AI in general is fine by me. It's passable in my books. Does that mean I don't think it needs adjusting? Of course it does and hopefully the patch makes those adjustments. If so, the AI is all the better. Since I've played 2K and EA Hockey and seen much worse Cpu AI, I don't think of 2K10's as all that awful or bad.

[superjew887]

I'm going out on a limb here and giving shadow and the 2k team the benefit of the doubt that this lengthy patch release is due in part because the patch is going to be of great quality.

Unlike EA who released a patch right away and left players wondering "what exactly changed?", I believe this patch is going to have us feeling right from the get-go, "wow! this game is totally revamped".

I'd rather wait out a patch and actually have it be flawless and address a lot of issues then be a quick fix. Hopefully my gut is right on this one. Don't let me down 2k!