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Old 11-06-2009, 01:06 PM   #161
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Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360)

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KGX, you couldnt really have expected the Commentay to be top notch could you? Remember, there are 2 different announcing teams. Personally I would rather have 2 decent teams than 1 great team.
I don't really expect much from any commentary except no lulls. Personally I don't care if they're repeating the same thing as long as there aren't any lulls and the commentary isn't 2 plays behind. I'm a HUGE Raff fan but maybe the reason it doesn't work for me is that those 2 don't work together in real life. I usually turn commentary off in CH2K8 until the NCAA Torney anyway and the overall presentation more than makes up for the weak commentary.


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LOL....Kgx, you found the simple word to describe the player movement that I was looking for....ROBOTIC. Yes that's the problem I have with the feel of this game


For me, the foundation of any game is how it feel's to play. I dont like the stiff, 'robotic' motion captured movements of the players. I think I would have enjoyed the game so much more if EA had given the college kids a more exaggerated rubbery motion to their movements.

Watch a college game, the first thing you notice right away is the oversized shorts and tops flowing as they dance and bounce all around the court. Point Guards have that 'boo-yeah' (?) low center of gravity as they shake and bake down the court. Players make their cuts, Big Man fight for position down low, balls carombing off the rim, off players hands, off the boards, its frantic, crazy, its sloppy....its the poetic artistry of college basketball....and I just dont really "feel" all that in the gameplay or the controls.




Yes... Robotic....is a good way to summarize the play

I do agree with Tomba tho....they did force more of a spread out team play aspect of the game rather than the iso superstar feel of the Pro game. I just think it should have went much further in capturing that college feel to its gameplay and controls. Especially since CH 2K8 already captured much of this several years ago

Yeah man. The game is very herky-jerky to me, even more so than Live which is a shame because the Motion Offense and spacing are perfect. If the spacing wasn't so good then the motion offense wouldn't feel right but EA NAILED that part.

I don't want to come off as an EA ***** but one thing I have noticed with this year's games is that whenever there are a lot of players in one area the game(s) go to hell and it's one big scramble with players running around like their heads are cut-off and an overall lack of logical movement/collision detections. In Madden it's the D-line/Pro-Tak, FIFA - in front of the goal, Hoops - around the rim.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:26 PM   #162
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Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360)

Im thinking this could be a result of just too many polygons being rendered simultaneously for the graphics processors to handle fluidly....so you start to see frames dropped to keep the game from slowing down.

Either that, or just bloated/inefficient optimizing of the rendering engine

These are my guesses

Its a shame because the running of the plays seem to be there, its just that the game play itself looks and feels like its a step backwards to a certain degree. I was hoping for some more organic gameplay to unfold. Collision detection and the feeling of physical weight inside is just not there.

Hopefully, the final game may be tweaked a bit more
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Presentation is as good as advertised. The pumping CBS logo before the game gives me goosebumps. The CBS Logos and overlays look dead on.

I played 3 games, 2 as Duke mainly to see how UNC ran their offense and both times I came away unimpressed. Anyone who has seen UNC under Roy knows they get up and down. Not one time did they even attempt a fast break.

I tried some of the same things that people have been complaining about Live and they were in the game:
  • The ability to pull off every move with any player regardless of skill. I could do the same crossovers with Nolan Smith that I could do with Plumlee.
  • Totally leaving any player besides the PG will result in the CPU not finding the open man. The PG was the only player that would be aggressive with the ball when not guarded.
  • Fouls are hit or miss. I would some get some very good calls on body-to-body contact and then not get a whistle on the exact same animation the next 3 times.
  • Seemed to me like there was no difference in shooting with bigs and guards. Bigs shooting form looks just like guards.
  • Still too many swishes.
  • The animation where you're driving the lane and take 2 steps, get contact, but before the contact your player regathers themselves and takes an extra step, is there. I HATE this animation with a passion.
  • Animations in general are too robotic. It's similar to Live in the sense that once you get better at Live you will see less unnatural animations but until you do you see some weird things. Animations around the basket as a whole are very odd.
Visually and graphically the game looks beautiful. I hated EA's player models in the past but I think they did a good job with NCAA. The court is a little too dark but that can always be tweaked.

Commentary is bad. There are too many lulls and Gus & Raff don't sound good together. I'm a Gus Johnson fan in real life but some of his lines in NCAA are way too overboard for a normal game.

After not being blown away by the gameplay this game is a "wait and see" for me right now. Hopefully we'll get good dynasty impressions or I can find a Blockbuster that has a copy to rent.
These are good points
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Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360)

Still haven't played the demo since I'm on PS3 but from all the vids I've watched it looks like the game is definitely behind post-patch Live 10. It will be interesting to see what we get in the retail and if a patch is going to come for the game.

I may actually hold off on buying the game until we get news regarding a patch, I'm not going to buy this game if the gameplay is worse than Live.
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I fired up the demo and after 2 games I deleted it......

I'm not going to sugar coat it this game based on the demo is GARBAGE!

I was already straying away from NBA Live 10 because of the flaws in that game. These game is not even close to Live 10 IMO.

For years i've been a huge EA basketball fan would defend them for years. These game should have taken a step up in game play yet it took a 1-2 steps backwards. I'm sick of the animations and lack of identity by the players in this series.

I don't care how much presentation was added it's not enough to make me spend $60 on game that animates terrible. I can't believe 2 months ago this was a game i targeted big time. Now it's just another half azzz sports game that will get by only because it's the only college b-ball game on the market.
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Re: NCAA Basketball 10 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360)

Granted I haven't spent much time with the demo, but the gameplay to me just feels wrong. College Hoops 2k8 was(is) an awesome game and I feel the gameplay in that game is spot on. However, with this game, game speed feels like it's going 100mph (players don't move at a realistic looking pace), animations look awful, the sound seems below average. The presentation is quite nice though. Overall, I'm unimpressed and will probably stick with College Hoops.
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Still haven't played the demo since I'm on PS3 but from all the vids I've watched it looks like the game is definitely behind post-patch Live 10. It will be interesting to see what we get in the retail and if a patch is going to come for the game.

I may actually hold off on buying the game until we get news regarding a patch, I'm not going to buy this game if the gameplay is worse than Live.
EA always patches their sports games at least once. I think it's Sony and Microsoft's policy to give developers one free patch, and EA does a nice job of taking advantage of that.
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