I like Nba Live and their ideas going forward, but you have to give the other game credit in what they are doing. The live demo is now being moved till the 19th, which is the same day the game releases. If you heard that podcast, then you would know that there are rough edges in their game, but they do have something promising. In my opinion the EA marketing team did a bad job marketing this game. 2k strategically decided when to show their trailers and overall progression to next gen and it worked. They will win the battle going into to next year. Live has hid their game, so they better hope they get the same positive feedback they got from the podcast if they want to see NBA Live 15.