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Old 09-28-2010, 10:57 AM   #1
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My suggestions on making Elite 11 better and pleasing the fans.

Before I start with my thoughts I want to briefly give my background. I am 36 years old, and consider myself to be an avid gamer. I remember playing my Atari 2600, and old NES... and then the Genesis.. and I can honestly say I have been an EA supporter since the days of John Madden Football, and Lakers vs. Bulls. I have seen (as most of you have) a ton of change as old systems die, and new ones come out...

with that being said...

I want to send my gratitude to the devs. from EA for coming to these forums and taking some of the harsh criticism that has been handed to them. I am quickly realizing that the gaming industry is a love/hate relationship... and no matter how hard you try... you can never please everybody... but I want to focus on what it will take to make this game what it should be, and how to "right the ship" so to speak.

1) Once EA finalizes some sort of time line we need to know about it. ASAP... don't leave us in the dark. I know either way will bring criticism.. but the fans need to know.

2) Since Jams is being released seperatly.. we need a date. I was going to buy Elite not only for the game.. but also for Jams. If Jams is not coming out for a month or so... I think it would be in your best interest to drop a demo and save some grace... (Just my 2 cents)

3) Now lets improve elite... what does it need???

- Graphics need upgrading (1080P) would be nice.. but overall graphics upgrade.
- I dig the controls for offense, except for passing. It is just odd to pass with the right trigger. Maybe look to mapping the non dribble controls to different buttons.
- I would love to see signature tendacies. EA wrote the book on signature animations back in the Genesis days... so lets look at that again.
- I feel the court is too short.. (sounds silly I know), but when you inbound the ball your at half court before you blink...
- Fix animations outside the paint. I would love to see different animations at different areas on the court.
- This game has the crowd done right, but lets work on the other parts... I want to see details from the arena floors done better...
- The menu system needs to be overhauled. Its just too blahh... I like the simplistic approach, but its too much in terms of numbers. It should be simplified, and then you can give us those spreadsheet stats if we choose to look at them in the menu.
- Defense needs to be looked at... Either slow the game down a tad, or give the defense a chance. I really feel like guarding is too hard.
- Too many CPU blocked shots... and the interior game seems a bit jumbled. Again this goes back to the court size... maybe a inch added here or there would make a world of difference.

any other ideas??? Please feel free to list.
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:42 PM   #2
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i think they defintely know the graphics needs a ton of work cause they said it would be taking a hit, so i just hope they fix the core of the game user vs cpu and user vs user. then i hope they dont for get about all the modes in the game they all need some help cause the become legendary mode from the blogs and playing the demo just doesnt look finished. i just hope that they let us help them addd the right things in the game to make it next gen cause we know they can do it, and im hoping this delay is letting us the fans of Live know that they care about are thoughts and really do want us to help them make the best basketball sim game, and put some of are ideas in this game thats not in there now. And take as long as you guys at EA need we can wait for a great basketball sim game.lol

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Old 09-28-2010, 04:37 PM   #3
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i'm really not expecting much. i think EA just realized that people arent as stupid as they think, and now they're gonna have to retool and make a game barely decent enough to scam everybody.


but anyway, i'd like to see the graphics/animations improved, those awful controls scrapped, and physics redone to be the Backbreaker-like experience a lot of people were probably expecting (as opposed to the crap they created and slapped the "physics" buzzword on). not to mention a host of other little things they need to do just to compete
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Re: My suggestions on making Elite 11 better and pleasing the fans.

Hoping that one of the devs will actually read this, i'm gonna post:

A graphical upgrade is needed badly, the player models all look the same and skin textures are horrible. ALL Player models (body's to be exact), need to be re-done.

Changing the name back to Live may help bring back what little long-time fans remain of the franchise.

Take the emphasis away from 1 on 1 gameplay. I have said repeatedly that the major flaw in this game is this: It's a 1-on-1 game in a 5-on-5 sport.

Take this opportunity to start over with your customers (the people who keep you in business). Forge an open relationship with us, right here on OS if you will, and keep us in the light about what you are doing. Gone are the days of making the game (what we think works/sells) and enter the days where the game is made FOR the consumer, who drives those sale ratings and value our input.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:58 PM   #5
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Take the emphasis away from 1 on 1 gameplay. I have said repeatedly that the major flaw in this game is this: It's a 1-on-1 game in a 5-on-5 sport.
I still haven't got a good answer as to why people feel this way.

Can you elaborate a little?

Why do you feel it is a one on one game?

What aspects of 5 on 5 do you feel are missing?

Thanks.
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Bringing back ranked club matches would help also with real NBA teams and players not dude we create
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I still haven't got a good answer as to why people feel this way.

Can you elaborate a little?

Why do you feel it is a one on one game?

What aspects of 5 on 5 do you feel are missing?

Thanks.
Reanimator, because i want to give you an honest and precise answer, i'm gonna play the demo a couple times and refresh my memory and give you some specifics. Check back a little later and hopefully i can give you a better answer
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- Defense needs to be looked at... Either slow the game down a tad, or give the defense a chance. I really feel like guarding is too hard.

Really? I thought playing defense was far too easy. I could guard Rondo with Bynum everytime by putting a body on him and guarding him as if it was a soccer game. I'm not joking, either. The lack of momentum and the absence of blocking fouls makes it all too easy.

Ideally, a good momentum system would allow Rondo to kill Bynum off the dribble, and blocking fouls would force the player to play careful position D with anybody other than elite defenders like Artest, who can anticipate and be aggressive.
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