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[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Man in real life thats not real Jumpshooters dont get their shots blocked that often.. contested and maybe the mechanic altered some yes, but not blocked Nobody knows when the guy is going to shoot the ball.. shoot listen to Kobe, he sets his defender up in the last seconds with the very thinking, they cant see the clock so they dont know when im going to shoot. I dont get why you guys at EA are so obsessed with the defender blocking jumpers so much. It just doesnt happen that way. I dont consider that realistic at all. Thats the entire thing about the NBA, guys already know what other teams are going to do but the offense usually executes anyway. Only when the defender is on top of the offense is when he gets a block or stop You're not going to block Ray Allen just because you know when he's shooting alone. 99% of the time you jump late, you can forget about it

And that's what I described. The defender being right up on the dribbler and having full knowledge that he was going to shoot.

You can't argue that in that situation the shot wouldn't be blocked.

Everything else you said is bang on once you remove that knowledge.

And that's the case in our game as well.

You shouldn't be trying to block all the time because you'll get burned with the pump fake and won't get the timing right all the time. It's usually not worth the risk.

But if you take that risk and the dribbler does the wrong thing he should pay.

But he should have all the tools you have in real life to make sure you look like a fool when you jump every time trying to block the shot.

[Mrko]

Quote: Originally Posted by rEAnimator

How come? What is it about that sequence of moves that turns you off?

His moves should've stop after the pro hop. I mean jumping to the left side of the goal then jumping all the way to the right, is something that shouldn't happen that fluid. If you don't understand what i mean by that, try this, act out that sequence in real life. After the behind the back in one direction to a two foot hop step to the left was cool, but from a hard hop step to jumping to the other side of the rim, should result in some kind of delay because of momentum.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by phant030

Second, you can't really access your full vertical leap when attempting to block a jumper from a defensive stance....you can get a good contest, but just b/c you have a 40 inch vert doesn't mean you can access it from a defensive slide or stand still. Just as the player shooting the jumper doesn't jump 40 inches up to shoot his J but somehow is able to shoot over the top of defenders know when and how he will shoot.

Agreed. But you also can slightly get out of that stance in anticipation of wanting to jump.

We don't give you that control, so something had to give.

You may not agree with our choice, but it was with all the right intentions.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrko

His moves should've stop after the pro hop. I mean jumping to the left side of the goal then jumping all the way to the right, is something that shouldn't happen that fluid. If you don't understand what i mean by that, try this, act out that sequence in real life. After the behind the back in one direction to a two foot hop step to the left was cool, but from a hard hop step to jumping to the other side of the rim, should result in some kind of delay because of momentum.

And there we have a perfect example of constructive feedback.

Thank you.

I completely agree by the way. I have not been happy with the way momentum is respected in the pro hops this year. This is an area we need to improve.

Now if we can just get all the other negative posts to follow suit with this we can start getting to the heart of the problems and start making positive change.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by PRAY IV M3RCY

i wouldnt think a smart defender would be trying to go for the block on a jumpshot everytime. Thats insane. The thinking should be trying to contest the shot, and make it harder. You want to be aggressive, but not too aggressive where you have the potential of fouling the shooter. And timing is the main reason why you DONT see alot of blocks against jumpshooters.

I completely agree. But it's under user control so biting on the pump fake is entirely in your hands (for the guy you're controlling).

Isn't that the way you want it? I know it's how I want it.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by coolcras7

I really don't understand your version or EA version of sim, you can't make the players do unrealistic things then say we are sim, no you're not.

So you're saying that in order for a game to be sim the players cannot do anything unrealistic?

If that's the criteria, then I've never seen a sim game in my life. There's always something...

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by PRAY IV M3RCY

this is still confusing me. what exactly is this offering me. Why fix one thing, but create another problem, and then feel as if you made the right decision? I dont see how saying "why dont we have them jump unrealistically to fix this" makes it a solution?

No, it's not a perfect solution.

But in my opinion it's better than favoring visuals over the proper gameplay balance.

Everyone will have a different take on this depending on what you want to get out of the game.

[rEAnimator]

Alright, that's it for the night. Need to get some sleep.

That's what I get for making a controversial statement I guess. But I answered every comment, you gotta give me credit for that

Shanghai tomorrow...hopefully I'll have time to check in here again.