NBA Elite 11 Video: Real AI

[ILLSmak]

Well...

It depends. I think it's good to have more in depth moves for the computer to do, but it'd have to work a certain way.

If you think about it as a chess game, opposed to having each move individually programmed in, it would have openings... and if that's what it is, that'd be cool. But it would have to know when to break out of the openings and use them as a set up for other counter moves if it's stopped. Would be lame to know KD was going to pump fake and go to the rim and just stand there and take the charge or get him in some contact animation 15 feet from the basket.

I mean, you guys should know what the computer is going to do at all times if you play NBA Live. It's just a matter of stopping it. If they could come out with 'real moves' that were actually something similar to what a player would do (even better, the real NBA player who programmed them in) it would be great.

But if they become overpowered go-to moves that a person can exploit every time... that's bogus. I'd rather it just be something purely for the computer to add some extra flavor.

-Smak

[kingpnp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jano

Blackflash83 is there employee but he just hasnt had much to post this year. And the team wanted to do more vids but their main focus has been working on the game. And one of the biggest reasons why I think 2K has been able to put out so many vids is they have had a presentable build for a while. A lot of EA's stuff has looked real rough, while 2K has had a smooth looking game since the beginning. Rob Jones said "I would be happy if they released the game today" and that was when the game was still in early development. Where as with EA you could immediately tell that the game was still in early development due to glitches. 2K is just moving at a much faster rate this year then they ever have so now they have more time to put out more vids. Where as EAC is moving at a MUCH slower pace then we are used to from them. Its like the roles have switch now EAC is "hiding" there game where as 2K is dropping video after video now..

the reason 2k has early vids this time. is because there's nothing really NEW about the game. more animations, better animations. a new mode. still is nothing more then a 2kshare roster with mjay and other teams. just now you can play with a legit one(possibly online also).

the new things are "tweeks" where as nba elite is doing another overhaul. next year if all things are the same. you will see ELITE with pretty graphics EARLY on. you watch. and 2k (if ea does scare them half dead this time) will hold off on vids to do their own overhauling.

[RIZDRAVER]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingpnp

the reason 2k has early vids this time. is because there's nothing really NEW about the game. more animations, better animations. a new mode. still is nothing more then a 2kshare roster with mjay and other teams. just now you can play with a legit one(possibly online also). the new things are "tweeks" where as nba elite is doing another overhaul. next year if all things are the same. you will see ELITE with pretty graphics EARLY on. you watch. and 2k (if ea does scare them half dead this time) will hold off on vids to do their own overhauling.

Wow, it's blatantly obvious you haven't read ANYTHING about the changes to 2K11 if you really believe that. Both games are going to feel completely different this year.

[YoungG]

i think if a dunk from the 46 second mark is going to be in the game, the game needs to understand if theres momentum or not. If no momentum and a gamer accidently does a dunk like that, then it needs to be a rim stuffer everytime.

[ILLSmak]

Quote: Originally Posted by RIZDRAVER

Wow, it's blatantly obvious you haven't read ANYTHING about the changes to 2K11 if you really believe that. Both games are going to feel completely different this year.

Bet...

-Smak

[mlp111]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingpnp

the reason 2k has early vids this time. is because there's nothing really NEW about the game. more animations, better animations. a new mode. still is nothing more then a 2kshare roster with mjay and other teams. just now you can play with a legit one(possibly online also). the new things are "tweeks" where as nba elite is doing another overhaul. next year if all things are the same. you will see ELITE with pretty graphics EARLY on. you watch. and 2k (if ea does scare them half dead this time) will hold off on vids to do their own overhauling.

yeah, 2k and elite 11 both built off there older game, nba 2k10 and nba live 10, so your absolutely wrong, elite only redid their physic engine, giving it and overhaul, 2k redid their gameplay and control, which can be greatly seen in the miami gamescom videos, so both games have done some serious work, 2k physics look amazing as well, elite physic are looking good too, so need 5-on-5 gameplay to really see what elite looks and plays like, 2k11 gameplay looks very solid, but not feeling their crowd in the game

[JWiLL02]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingpnp

the reason 2k has early vids this time. is because there's nothing really NEW about the game. more animations, better animations. a new mode. still is nothing more then a 2kshare roster with mjay and other teams. just now you can play with a legit one(possibly online also).

Go check out the new controls trailer, then when you're back from preordering, come on here and apologize.

These clips are extremely discouraging. Monster dunks off of 2 feet, from just inside the FT line, with NO forward momentum? I thought these were supposed to be "real" physics?

I didn't touch 2K for 2 months last year because I was so impressed with Live's movement and responsive controls. IMO they should have just built off that, added more depth of animations (signature, post up, contact, etc) and gone from there. I can see why Mike Wang disagreed with this direction. While I hope it can be a fun, balanced basketball experience, it definitely won't be an "authentic NBA experience".

I'll definitely give the demo a shot, the developers are certainly putting everything they can into this. Good luck!