NBA Live 10 Video #1

[fluent2332]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

Man I've been itching to download that 2K 10 demo but I haven't even bothered. I'm trying like hell to avoid the game and give Live the 1st crack like always. I've heard great things about the final product from a buddy. But he knows i'm a NBA Live fan. That's why i want to someone showcase NBA Live 10 game play before it releases just like how those 2K guys have been showing casing the CPU players in 2K10 doing great stuff on their own not human controlled. Every single video i see of Live is always some guy showing off his stick skills.....I'm not worried about what the human player can do that doesn't excite me. I want to see the CPU players use half of those moves in the game ON THEIR OWN. I can't believe that as NBA fans there aren't that many guys who are concerened with how the CPU uses these ball handling skills or atack the rim moves. What good would it be if Chris Paul had 99 dribbling skills in the game but he doesn't show case those skills on his OWN. I yet to hear any one guy on the Live boards say that is something they'd like to see........instead i keep seeing guys post about what they did in the game or show a video of what they did with the new dribbling mechanics. It feels like I'm on the moon by myself when it comes to wanting to see the CPU Players show case their skills individually like we see in these videos.

From Mike's blogs/videos and what Da Czar has said, they both say the CPU AI is very good, provides a challenge, and also has weapons they use to attack you. I think over on Mike's blog is a video or 2 of CPU vs CPU and they play great. I don't think you need to be worried about it.

[zfinley]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

Man I've been itching to download that 2K 10 demo but I haven't even bothered. I'm trying like hell to avoid the game and give Live the 1st crack like always. I've heard great things about the final product from a buddy. But he knows i'm a NBA Live fan. That's why i want to see someone showcase NBA Live 10 game play before it releases just like how those 2K guys have been showcasing the CPU players in 2K10 doing great stuff on their own not human controlled. Every single video i see of Live is always some guy showing off his stick skills.....I'm not worried about what the human player can do that doesn't excite me. I want to see the CPU players use half of those moves in the game ON THEIR OWN. I can't believe that as NBA fans there aren't that many guys who are concerened with how the CPU utilizes these ball handling skills or atack the rim moves. What good would it be if Chris Paul had 99 dribbling skills in the game but he doesn't show case those skills on his OWN. I've yet to hear any one guy on the NBA Live boards say that is something they'd like to see in the game........instead i keep seeing guys post about what they did in the game or show a video of what they did with the new dribbling mechanics. It feels like I'm on the moon by myself when it comes to wanting to see the CPU Players show case their skills individually like we see in these videos.

Your not alone man I've had my concerns about superstar players not taking over.

You just have to remember about 90% of people that play b-ball games only care about what they can do and not the CPU owning them.

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by fluent2332

From Mike's blogs/videos and what Da Czar has said, they both say the CPU AI is very good, provides a challenge, and also has weapons they use to attack you. I think over on Mike's blog is a video or 2 of CPU vs CPU and they play great. I don't think you need to be worried about it.

A challenge isn't my point, them attacking the rim isn't my point i've seen them put their head down and attack the rim in a straight line.

What i'm speaking of is what you see in those videos in this thread.

You see creativity with the ball by the Human player right?

Show me one video where the CPU player reacts that way with the ball in his hands. If the CPU did those things to the human player you can't tell me 90% of you guys wouldn't get a DAMN HARD ON just seeing that ****.

That's my point I haven't seen it not even from Kobe in the demo. Can someone honestly say Chris Paul is going to create on his own the way we see CP3 create IRL?

I'm pretty sure he'll have 90+ handles but will that rating make him showcase his ball handling skills on his own?

You play NHL 10 or Madden 10?

Guys have a certain skill set in those games and you see them performing moves based on their skill set. I see the CPU in NHL 10 doing some amazing things with the puck to beat a defender or get around a defender. They look almost human like when performing their deke moves

[dirtypuppet]

2 quick comments to the producers.

1:
I presume it's a done to save on processing power, but there really should be some sort of random offset for the crows animations (in particular the towel waving and giant fingers). It's kind of distracting to see the entire crowd in unison for these animations. I know it would be an easy thing to program, but jus wanted to know if this is done to save processing power, or just hasn't been looked at.

2:
Also, player models and faces are heaps better this year, but I reckon the specular maps on the heads could be assessed. Low quality vid I know, but I think you could make it so the area where players have hair is much less specular than it is.

Even for people with only stubble (like Kobe) the tops of their heads should not be so specular.

In this short vid as an example, when you see the cut away for Rasheed, his head is shining away, but his hair should really remain matte, or at least a whole lot less glossy compared to his face.

From playing the demo (lots) I think it's a bit of a negative point on an otherwise very solid lighting system this year.

small side note: I'm sure again, it's also a processing thing, but for players with lots of hair (eg: Gasol) there is no shadow created on their foreheads from their Hair geometry. A simple solution would be to bake it into their head texture.

Some people may think this is nitpicking, but seriously, on all the post play cuts and free throw routines, these small details are very apparent.

thanks

(p.s. any word on the Hawks mascot uniform update stephensonmc?)

[Court_vision]

Looks great

[bxsteve]

Quote: Originally Posted by IDILL_E

Why do people want so bad for one game to be better than the other? Seriously the fandom is just silly. Some of you would buy a hoops game from EA or 2k if it didnt even have a basketball. "I took my money off of 2k"...sure you did, I bet you never put money on 2k you are just such a fanboy that you would like to take a shot at 2k every change you get. How about we all enjoy the the fact that competition brings out the best in both companies. Stop with the blind loyalty its really disgusting How about we all want the best game. IMO The track record speaks for itself. I dont think Live will be able to over take live in just a year. However, Live is much much improved over previous years. Sig styles still need to be worked on though. Shaq doesnt really play like shaq as far as how he plays down low from that vid. Overall a lot better than last year, keep it up.

yea i been rockin wit 2k since dreamcast but i never had hate for live. just want to have the best gm, now if both are hot then i'll cop both lol. i just like to see that EA is closing ground and makin it a choice to make cuz so far on these next-gen systems, live has been basuda!!! i even bought both copies last year but quickly traded live in. i still think 2k's got it but i do like live a lot more than the previous lives. My one major gripe wit live this yr tho, is some of the collisions in the paint.... they look ok, but they change the whole animation and sometimes to the point where ur player actually travels but its not called. other than that, live is lookin ok this yr. might have 2 basketball titles in my collection lol

[staffan]

Was planning to get both games but after the 2K demo it will be Live only.

[goh]

Quote: Originally Posted by stephensonmc

We've shown you everything, there's nothing more to show

No ASW then?

My fav thing about the video was the way the Hawks pushed the ball up the court 20 seconds in after the first Wade score.